yep. lots of hate-o-rade for the XT cause of exactly what these guys say. if you want the feel (see: suspension) of a bike made in the 1970s with early 90s technology, then go for it. but if you want something with real suspension, and real acceleration, look elsewhere. that being said, my xt225 has kept up with most of these FFs decently, except on the straight fast parts. one day Ill have to replace the old xt, and itll probly be a drz.