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Discussion in 'The Sandbox - AKA Flatistan' started by Flacrusher, Sep 27, 2017.
Thinking "Cheap" means different strokes for different folks
Kinda like hookers and beer
Personally, my list would be: WR250, DR350, TDub, CRF250L, DR650, XR650L
Guess it depends on what you intend to ride. I've never had issues with carbs if I drain the float bowl. Some have a float drain screw, takes all of 20 seconds to do, and boom, it's away. EFI is good, but if fuel goes bad and taints the pump or screen, then that's a job and a half. WR offers best of both, IMO. Not terribly expensive, ok performance, reliable, and you can farkle away.
You CAN find BMW 650s for different prices; depends on model. Early 97-98-99 Funduros or whatever they were called pop up for $2500 or less all the time. Some of the 07-08 G650s come up for around $3k-$3500, but those have some dodgy records of reliability. Being away from major civilization, I'd want a jap single, but that's from a guy the owns four Yamahas.
I'd look for an XT250 or CRFL. Both cheap used, FI, good enough for the backroads, no problem on the dirt roads, still OK for most trails. There is no sand so you don't need an expensive high performance plated enduro for "dual sport" riding.
Really anything will work though, I've ridden a loaded KLR all around the dirt roads up there and been fine. I've ridden a 16hp 250 around the twisty mountain roads just fine as well.
Find something in your budget that is well cared for and enjoy the hell out of it.
Take pride in know most folks on this forum are jealous :)
I would say you are more likely to find a fuel injected 650GS under 4K than a WR250R.
Now will it be cheaper to own......probably not.
Heh, I get the distinct impression that while BMWs aren't all necessarily lemons, they're definitely lemon-scented...
Yep. I had an XR250 and 400 that sat for over a year at a time and never failed to start after a couple of kicks. And I did nothing to them...no gas stabilizer or run the crabs dry, etc.
My TW I bought for $500. It had been sitting for years, barely ridden. It was a total mess. It's one of those bikes you look at and think "okay, that's a parts bike, and none of the parts on it look to be worth a damn". Absolutely filthy, stored outside, dented, all the signals missing, headlight cracked, bars bent, etc. Guy pulled it around and the battery was completely flat. But damn if the thing didn't start on the fourth kick. It had some hesitation, but damn if it didn't run pretty well too. I rode it up and down the street, and then asked about a title. Turns out he actually had it... so I didn't even haggle. I just handed the man his money and went home happy. Bike was seriously abused and neglected, and it still started and ran. It hadn't seen a servicing in ages and the chain was so rusted you couldn't hear the exhaust note over the SQUEAK-A SQUEAK-A SQUEAK-A SQUEAKASQUEAKASQUEAKASQUEAKA as I went for my test ride. But it started and ran on gas that honestly smelled more like varnish than gasoline.
I drained the tank, cleaned the carb, put a new air filter on it (and cleaned out the squirrel nest), new oil, filter, chain, and sprockets. And that's it. It never needed anything else. I crashed it and THRASHED it often, and it always survived. Even survived 2 hours tapped out at max rpm on the highway to get to some gnarly off-road riding.
Cost of ownership.
It's funny how some bikes will run under the worst circumstances and others barely run under the best! Having a bike that's easy to start and isn't known for being temperamental is a big benefit to me.
Look, you are a HP addict. Something like a KLR or XT250 is probably not going to do it for you. Just buy a nice Orange or white EFI dual sport, a battery tender and a set of sumo wheels.
Once you go black... err... orange (or white), you never go back!
Josh and Eloy - Am I really that transparent? I guess I probably am, so why not own it? I did consider a well kept 05-07 450 EXC but..... If I go that route, I might just bring my 501 up there for the summer months and back down here for the winter and save the extra expense.
I'd forget Florida. Problem solved.
Riding in south FL sucks.
True but I don't want to give up riding for 7-8 months a year!
Heated grips and tire studs, ride year round
Get a boat
Sometimes you guys aren't very helpful and sometimes you are. The last (2) comments fall into the not-so-helpful category.
I've had a 2nd home not too far north from your new place in NC for over 12 yrs now. For about 9 of those yrs I left a '00 DRZ up there. I used Sta bil & disconnected the battery and had no problems. They're great all around dual sport bikes, imo. A bonus for the DRZ is the passenger pegs in case mom wants to jump for a little back road exploration.
Now, I've got a plated '06 EXC 450 that I use Sta bil in and don't bother to disconnect the battery as it has a master switch and have had no problems with it either. There's a XC 200 GG too, for when I don't need a plate. I've had no fuel problems with any of them by using Sta bil, faithfully.
For your intended use a 400DRZ with a 47T rear cog, bark busters, a set of MT 21 tires & maybe a small luggage rack would be about perfect, imo.