best earbuds for under helmet??

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by therm, May 26, 2015.

  1. yoohah

    yoohah Been here awhile

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    One problem with the airpods is that they have integrated mic which is useless when wearing helmet. And when using helmet communicator (for example Cardo) these won’t integrate well. One has microphone, one has speaker, what to connect to which one (phone, navigator etc). It’s a total mess. I wish there would be a company who makes one device. It could be located to handle bars and have BT for a mic and speakers (obviously any BT capable earpiece would work). Mic could be a small one which you can attach front of the mouth somehow (no wires because you might have different type of helmets). Then the device itself would be a hub for your phone and navigator and it would be a universal extended range communicator between riders.

    About the connectivity why we can’t use our phones as a communicators between riders? We have a buch of apps which could have a group chats with voice and they are universal (crossplatform). Has anyone tested the apps and phones to communicate to other riders?
  2. webnetxpress

    webnetxpress Been here awhile

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    doing a 8 hour group ride, the phone battery will die. and probably overheat.
    plus an app would use internet, so data. you would have to be within range for them to work, not ideal
  3. yoohah

    yoohah Been here awhile

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    Charging while riding. Using Whatsapp or some other ip voice app, with unlimited data (no extra costs). Currently people are using a lot these video/voice conferencing apps and softwares. For hours.
  4. SFC_Ren

    SFC_Ren Been here awhile

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    You only ride where there is cell service? You need to get out of town more on your rides.
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  5. yoohah

    yoohah Been here awhile

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    I’m in Europe. There’s no such thing like no service here. Coverage is everywhere.
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  6. webnetxpress

    webnetxpress Been here awhile

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    I do use Whatsapp and other VOIP apps/software on my phone, however I do not use it for hours non stop. For video conferencing (thanks to covid) most of our office staff are using laptops or tablets for video conferences lasting hours or longer, not a phone. My phone will overheat when using it non stop for an hour or more outdoors. Screen on, data on and being used, bluetooth on.

    Plus my phone is not nearly as durable as my Cardo unit. I wouldn't attach my phone to my helmet or handlebars and then expect it to survive after a tumble across the desert (happens).

    Anyway, I hope you can find a suitable app and it works well for you. For me and my riding partners a cellphone is not a solution.
  7. webnetxpress

    webnetxpress Been here awhile

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    Perhaps you would be better served by integrating a mobile radio (FRS/GMRS) which is cross platform compatible, does not require data and is probably more rugged than a cellphone. You can get a bluetooth interface and/or PTT button to use with whatever headset you want to use.

    But this is way off the thread topic of best earbuds.... there are plenty of threads already on mobile radio and bluetooth headsets.
  8. EmmEff

    EmmEff Long timer

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    I can't speak to these particular earbuds, but know that you can use Comply Foam Tips with many different brands/models of earbuds and get excellent noise isolation and comfort. I use them with cheap Sony earbuds and am very pleased with the sound quality. They're a bit of a premium and don't last forever, but definitely worth it for long rides.
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  9. barnyard

    barnyard Verbal tactician Super Moderator

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    I love Comply tips. The last set of earbuds I bought, I checked to make sure I could get Comply tips before I bought them.
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  10. EmmEff

    EmmEff Long timer

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    FWIW, I just got a new set of earbuds to try yesterday (Pioneer Ironman bluetooth; picked them up on clearance for about $15 USD) which came with silicon tips. Compared to the foam tips on my cheap JVC mallows, they don't block wind noise nearly as well. I'll be upgrading those to foam tips.
  11. Rick G

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    I recently upgraded to Shure SE215 Bluetooth from the non Bluetooth version. I am liking them a lot. Using my modular helmet, I can easily pull the sides apart enough to put on without disturbing the earpiece seal. Very good sound quality, excellent noise protection. Only downside is the placement of the controls for riding. I am sure they are fine for normal use, but while riding, wearing a helmet and jacket, you can inadvertently push the volume or pause button when turning head for lane checks. I am learning to position so it won't happen. Minor annoyance that is over weighed by their performance and comfort.

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    KingOfFleece SplitWeight(tm) waterproof seat covers Supporter

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    I have the 215 bluetooth also. killer stuff
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  13. freebird6

    freebird6 Been here awhile

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    I moved over to MEE earphones https://www.meeaudio.com/ and affix the triple flange tips to them. Coming out of the Cardo i get quiet and good audio on calls and music.
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  14. De-Silva

    De-Silva Been around a while....

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    Just a thought from a guy who is also trying to quell noise within my helmet.... what would be the reasons for you folks to NOT consider the Sena Momentum INC PRO in your consideration? Price? doesn't perform as well as the options you are investigating here?

    For reference: I ride a 2014 Yamaha S10 and have a couple of shields depending on the time of year... thanks for any feedback / advice!
  15. thirdofthree

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    Price is part of it, but I also don't see much value in bundling high tech with a helmet. I can get a better video camera with the features about which I care and use it irrespective of helmet. Likewise for audio system / noise reduction.

    And helmet fit is crucial. There is exactly one, and only one, helmet on the market that fits my noggin. I seriously doubt the Sena adds to that number.

    Also, it's not at all clear to me the noise reduction in the Sena is effective...whether none, a little, or a lot. The webpage and documents I could find have no specs of any kind on noise reduction / cancellation. Only thing I saw was this graph with comically un-labelled Y axis:

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    Each horizontal line could well be just 1 dB. Who knows? I suspect it's telling they don't provide readily available / accessible specs.
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    webnetxpress Been here awhile

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    Price. Features. Weight. Not upgradeable...
    Wouldn't buy a helmet with everything built in, you cant upgrade anything. The bluetooth intercomm is years behind Cardo DMC (and now maybe Sena mesh?). Camera battery is limited... can you swap the battery when its done for the day or does it require being plugged in?
    Nothing will beat a custom set of molded earbuds (my opinion). And you are not limited to just one helmet, you can have multiple helmets and use your earbuds (as well as intercom and camera) among all your helmets.
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  17. BillMoore

    BillMoore Long timer Supporter

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    Also, I go through helmets 2 or 3 times as fast as I go through communicators. My Sena 20S is on its third helmet now.
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  18. lacofdfireman

    lacofdfireman Long timer Supporter

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    What custom molded ones did you go with and what was the price?

    Just bought some radians to give a try.
  19. webnetxpress

    webnetxpress Been here awhile

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    Post #393 in this thread (page 20 on my browser).

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  20. Shakey1317

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    I am brand new to the site and first time commenter, I have read every single post. It took a while, ha ha ha. I recently purchased the Mee M6 Pro 2nd Gen, I went through The painstaking process of trying all of the different tips and also buying comply ear tips too. Without the music playing, the noise isolation is minimal, to the point I can still hear my wife clearly talking to me and at only a very slight quieter sound (unfortunately). I use the earphones for my motorbike to help deaden the noise of the exhaust and of course wind noise. Unfortunately these have been very disappointing. Music on or off, the sound of the exhaust absolutely smashes through. The £10 JVC Marshmallows I have do a better job with comply tips.

    I have watched the tutorial on how to wear them, to make sure I wasn’t doing it wrong. I am not.

    Amazingly, the best I have found so far are the old in apple buds, not the ones that come in the box, but the £80 ones with the Comply Whoomp ear tips. Unfortunately, Apple have stopped making them. I’m gutted! These have been the ONLY earphones/headset that have worked perfectly for me, and I have tried various Sena and Cardo systems (absolutely useless) and various other in ear buds.

    I am at a complete and utter loss now.