BETA 2-Stroke Thread. 250RR, 300RR, X-Trainer

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by ToriMish, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. shortman

    shortman Beta 500 RS, X-Trainer 250 Supporter

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  2. CRW

    CRW I dont want a pickle

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    Thanks for your reply's. I was trying avoid the main bearing topic for my sanity! But with the comments here and a few other talks with friends and reliving the moment in my head..... I emailed BetaUSA, Tim got back to me incredibly fast after a few emails BetaUSA is mailing me an engine box with a return label. I'll pull the motor and box it up. He says if its Betas bad on the failure they will fix it. If its something else I pay for parts. Seems fair to me.


    There was a discussion about dust passing the air filter and air filter choices. No toil being my go to for decades was frowned upon by BetaUSA. My air box seems very clean!
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  3. Rob578

    Rob578 Long timer Supporter

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  4. NoelJ

    NoelJ Long timer

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    That's the difference between Beta and everyone else. They're so attentive to their customers it still takes me by surprise at times.
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  5. ChasM

    ChasM Been here awhile

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    I agree with Beta USA regarding the use of No Toil. I have heard enough horror stories from others about No Toil that I figure Why gamble on it?
  6. Fluke

    Fluke Need to get back to dirt

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    Mid ride on tuesday my starter stopped working. (2016 300rr race)Solenoid clicked, nothing from the starter. Tore the starter out and found this. Something plastic let go and wedged the rotors. What let go and is it important? Starter has about 60hrs on it. I cleaned everything up put it together and it works. Just not sure for how long. I have a race on Saturday and really hope it lasts.

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  7. NorskieRider

    NorskieRider Ultracrepidarian

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    FREE levers for the price of shipping ($8) if you want them.

    I bought these for my '21 XTrainer but they don't fit:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000780441455.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.640f4c4dCAB88L

    Maybe they'll fit other Beta models. The issue is that the bushing hole on the clutch side isn't chamfered so they don't fit into the perch:

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    The OEM lever measures 17.95 mm thick:

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    and the Chinese is 18.65mm:

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    There's also an issue with the hole for the return spring ... it's too narrow on the Chinese one:

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    I don't know if the throttle side fits.
  8. Dao1

    Dao1 Long timer

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  9. CRW

    CRW I dont want a pickle

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    Lil follow up on my last post. Shipped motor out to BetaUSA last Monday. Got a email today. They stripped motor and found the one of the stator bolts backed out and gouged the flywheel. New stator and flywheel installed plus piston and rings that where reported to look new. All on BetaUSA’s dime. Motor is due to ship tomorrow. They just earned a super loyal customer! ECDBD8D7-79CB-4DBB-82B3-CBE6D2FA8464.jpeg 029BEABA-B11E-4F13-AE35-3A51838D8777.jpeg 029BEABA-B11E-4F13-AE35-3A51838D8777.jpeg ECDBD8D7-79CB-4DBB-82B3-CBE6D2FA8464.jpeg
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  10. swamp

    swamp Shut up. Ride.

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    wait... what is wrong with No Toil?
    I've been using that stuff for a long time.
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  11. CRW

    CRW I dont want a pickle

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    I’m not sure. Like you I have been using it for a really long time. Beta said the industry insiders are see bad results. To me that means dirt or dust is passing through. It, such a nice and easy product to use and has always worked well for me.
  12. swamp

    swamp Shut up. Ride.

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    ya. I love that stuff. I'm going to keep using it. I only ride single track out in the woods. never any dust so I think I'll be alright.
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  13. shortman

    shortman Beta 500 RS, X-Trainer 250 Supporter

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    You got 500 hours on your first X-Trainer before needing a top end so I think what your doing is just fine!
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  14. Dao1

    Dao1 Long timer

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    I find that no toil evaporates off the foam filter more rapidly than the petroleum filter oil. As long as I ride the bike within a week of applying no toil, it seems to filter dust just as good as the twin air/klotz/maxima petroleum ones. If i let the bike sit a month w/ no toil on the filter, it's typically bone dry by then, and then i have to put more oil on the filter before riding.
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  15. 2-650'S

    2-650'S Single track seeker

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    Anybody know what temperature the fan turns on on a 2021 Xtrainer?
  16. Bucho

    Bucho DAMNrider

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    Super hot but still nice ride.

    I set up this creek bed as a riding section
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  17. Topher749

    Topher749 Been here awhile

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    Reminds me of a trail we call "The Hurt Locker"!

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  18. Junglejeff1

    Junglejeff1 Long timer

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    That kind of service is awesome.Makes me happy to hear because I was sort of on the fence buying a new beta and happy I did.I get crazy awesome service from TRS for my trials bike also.I am simply not used to such good service after running ktm,s and Yamaha,s the last 30 years.I am definitely a Beta and TRS fanboy now. IMG_20210828_110020018_HDR.jpg
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  19. I.P. Freely

    I.P. Freely Ragin Cajun

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    That’s good to hear. I’ve always owned CR’s, YZ’s, Kawasaki and Suzuki’s and on the fence about trying another brand. But, I’m looking at getting an Xtrainer, either a 2021 or 2022. Anything to look out for on a 2021? Should I be worried about the changes made to the 2022 Xtrainer?
  20. Junglejeff1

    Junglejeff1 Long timer

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    I don't know much about the x,s.Everyone I know here has the RR or race models.I would not worry about quality because beta does a nice job except some of the wiring is sort of questionable.The motors are the same in all the bikes except I am told they map the x a little different for it's more defined purpose.I love the looks of the x trainer frame.If your planning on being over 3rd gear much I would go with a RR.
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