Bicycles on the road

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by ThatOtherGuy, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. Center-stand

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    https://redirect.viglink.com/?forma...t human enough for drivers: study </b></span>

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    I see no value in studies like this. Showing anyone an evolutionary scale of insect to human or ape to human and asking them to identify where a cyclist might fit on that scale can't be scientific. When given limited choices that really don't pertain to the actual, relevant premise, one might choose based on their last negative encounter with a cyclist or simply humor, we don't know.

    This is designed to create animosity, or division, something we don't need more of. It is interesting that, "On both ape-human and insect-human scales, 55 per cent of non-cyclists and 30 per cent of cyclists rated cyclists as not completely human". Apparently some cyclists are riding with or around people they don't value highly.

    On the other hand we have to remember that on repeated occasions, within these pages, cyclists have told motorists when driving narrow, curvy, or hilly roads, that they should treat cyclists like a fallen tree, stray animal, or other road debris, as if cyclists are not capable of acting more intelligent than farm animals or inanimate objects.

    Spring is here, more cyclists on the road, be careful.

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  2. windmill

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    I think some people hate cyclists out of hand because they assume any adult riding a bicycle must be a liberal, environmentalist, athlete, vegan, unemployed, homosexual, street person, has suspended licence, immigrant, pacifist, hipster, or some other identity that sets them off.

    Some can't comprehend that a "normal well adjusted adult" (by their definition) could simply find riding a bicycle enjoyable or convenient, and not because they have an agenda, or trying to make a lifestyle statement.
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    Dang, I think anyone who can name that many different identities, might be an unemployed athletic homosexual liberal vegan pacifist immigrant hipster environmentalist street person without a drivers license. Most likely a cyclist. ....................... Maybe not.:-)

    I've always heard, and tend to agree, the only "normal" people are the ones we don't know. Neither I, nor my friends are "normal" each of us have our own eccentricities that we learn about each other by being friends.

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  5. enduro0125

    enduro0125 Sticks and Stones™..

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    Is his name Wayne?
  6. AntiSuperEgo

    AntiSuperEgo Been here awhile Supporter

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    I have raced Road, MTB and Cyclocross and been a race promoter. There are cyclist that annoy me.
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  7. windmill

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    That's true, there really isn't a "normal". Labeling someone true or not just makes it easy to hate on them because "they" are different.

    One thing for sure, a person with that many identities would be interesting.....and have lots of excess energy.....they would need to ride a bike. :lol3
  8. Ridge

    Ridge Faster than farm equipment. Supporter

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    Caught on my handlebar cam from this past Sunday...

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  9. Desce

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    Man I know that one . Keeps me from riding roads like that one unfortunately. That's every other car here in DC. Sadly I believe it's done with malice and anger . At what I'm not sure, hatred of their own out of shape selves ?
  10. XRCA

    XRCA Been here awhile

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    Yikes. I've thought about getting the Cycliq Fly12, but since I already have a headlight and gopro, it seems excessive. I do like the all-in-one thing it has going on though. I do have a Fly6 for the rear, but hopefully it was just close and not also aggressive...
  11. Ridge

    Ridge Faster than farm equipment. Supporter

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    T'was very aggressive... hand stuck on horn button and holding it down, heard the engine rev up and intentionally cut as close as possible. To be fair though; this was the only asshole in a 67 mile, 3.5 hour ride. That's usually the case though; the ratio of assholes to courteous drivers is something like 1:500...

    No sound in video as I don't record with a microphone. It just usually picks up a bunch of wind noise and takes up more memory.

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  12. XRCA

    XRCA Been here awhile

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    Did you notify the police? Hope you enjoyed the rest of the ride. I've been doing so much on Zwift or Fulgaz recently, since dealing with cars while motorcycling doesn't make me excited to take the engine out of the equation and get back on the road. Either that or mountain biking, but I still want a gravel bike :)
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    Ridge Faster than farm equipment. Supporter

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    Working on it... trying to get the right person at the Sheriff's office for that county.
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    Best of luck. I get sad when I think about getting killed by one of these people and my little girls (3 and 1) having to grow up without me. I know that being on a motorcycle forum that yes there is increased risk while on moto, and maybe I really should just harden up and ride on road more often, but people are crazy. Even crazier when they think they'll get away with hurting/killing someone else.
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  15. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave I cannot abide.

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    I made the promise to myself that, should I ever have kids, I wouldn't ride road motorcycles between their ages of zero and 18. I've been too close to losing my life to errant cage drivers.
  16. windmill

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    If you want to look n the bright side, those people are at least aware of your presence, and are highly unlikely to actually hit you. It's the distracted, or impaired driver that is likely the one that will get you.
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    enduro0125 Sticks and Stones™..

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    You don’t ride a bicycle on the road do you?
  18. Gummee!

    Gummee! That's MR. Toothless

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    The aggressive drivers will get you because they misjudge the width of their vehicle. They're not specifically aiming at you. The distracted drivers are the ones that make me nervous cause it's like a golden bb: it's random chance whether you're 'in their way' or not.

    Either way, I refuse to live my life scared. I keep riding despite the bullying I'm receiving on the roads. :nod

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  19. XRCA

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    I understand your point, Gummee, but I am not scared for me. My death would affect more than just me.

    At any rate, either I deal with lunatics on the road, or snakes and booby traps on the trail (i.e., piano wire at neck height, the glass lined kite string at neck height which has also been found strung across some roads here in San Diego, rock piles in strategic locations around blind turns, etc)
  20. windmill

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    Yes, I do.

    My experience and observations are that the a-hole driver really isn't much of an actual threat because they're highly attuned to your presence. They intend to miss you with their "punishment pass", therefore don't need to be evaded. This kind of driver is fairly uncommon.


    It's the distracted and impaired drivers that are the threat because they're simply not aware of your presence and must be actively avoid by evasive manouvers. This kind of driver is extremely common.

    Naturally this doesn't take into account the actual crazy person trying to hit someone, but they're exceedingly rare.