Black Dog Cycle Works - outfitting the KTM 790 Adventure

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  1. BlackDogCycleWorks

    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    We figured it's about time to provide an update on our thoughts on getting the coming 790 Adventure properly outfitted for adventure riding. There isn't a big update yet...we're waiting just like everyone else but we do have one on order and it should be in the first shipment hitting our shores (expected in May).

    Once we have it in the shop we'll be seeing what will be involved for a BDCW-level skid plate and making sure our foot pegs fit.

    We'll post updates as we have them...including photos of the bike when we get it!

    In the meantime...tip of the hat to Scott Myer and his win at the recent KTM Ultimate Race aboard a 790 Adventure R

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    Photo credit @ktmusa on IG!

    Apparently Scott loves sand! :D

    -Black Dog Cycle Works
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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    Yeah! We picked up on 790 on June 12th!

    We've already confirmed that our platform and traction pegs fit it and development is underway for an Ultimate skid plate and a multi-function rear rack. No ETA yet as we've just gotten the tape measure out and trying to figure out what is what. We'll provide updates as we make progress on these new product fronts.

    In the meantime, if you need pegs we've got them HERE.

    Thanks for the continued support and the interest in our 790 products!

    -Black Dog Cycle Works
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  5. SteadyStare

    SteadyStare Adventurer wannabe

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    Need one ASAP! Keep us posted when you have an ETA
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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    We hear you. We're working our way back to the shop from the Arctic Circle but we'll be working on it as soon as we get back. :thumb

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    SteadyStare Adventurer wannabe

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    I guess riding is the only valid excuse. Alright, don't get back too fast and enjoy that ride!
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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    We're back and hard at work in the shop on the 790. We have some updates...

    Prototyping the new Ultimate Skid Plate for the 790 is underway...

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    We've got a rear rack solution worked out and it will be available in approximately 4 weeks (mid-August)

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    And we've got the side side enlarger in stock and ready for purchase here

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    We'll provide additional updates as we make progress. Thanks for everyone's interest in products for the 790!

    -Black Dog Cycle Works
    www.blackdogcw.com
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    aage Been here awhile

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    Would it not be possible to bend your plate so that it goes UNDER the black plate of top of it, instead of over or in front of it.

    Over it = all the dirt gets under the skidplate to the exhaust,,, engine ,, bottom,,,,,

    Under or behind it = dirt leaks down your skidplate, down to the ground. Would be much better design.

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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    Very early prototype...lots of things, like you point out, to consider.

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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    Not trying to be negative but I'm not a fan of the design. For me I like a rack that has a spot for straps at the end closest to the seat to keep the bag from sliding front to back.
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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    The rack is actually a design that we've been selling for the 1090, 1190, and 1290s. On these particular models you have the option to use the pillion rack since they have two piece seats and the rear/pillion can be removed and one of our pillion racks installed. The pillion rack does incorporate what you are asking about - especially since if the load does move forward it will be in your back on one of these models. On the 790, the Adventure R (the one we have) is a one piece seat so switching seats and then adding a pillion rack is more challenging. We wanted to get at least an option out there for both models and our existing design lended itself to that. Based on feedback coming from owners there may be additional options we may consider. It's early in the development cycle but it's a great bike and we're looking forward to see where it goes.

    Thanks for the feedback and in the meantime, enjoy the new ride!

    -Black Dog Cycle Works
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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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  16. linssen

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    I wonder if you've got any concern about mounting the rear of the plate into the hanger, and by-proxy up through the engine casing? I can see one advantage of the OEM plate is that it'll flex, and transfer say 70% of the force to the cat, but a rigid design will transfer almost 100% through the engine going directly upwards.

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    Fully appreciate it's an unfinished prototype, and that you guys are legit engineers, and I'm not. I'm just overly paranoid about cracking the case, and wanted see what the pros thought.
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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    We believe the strongest point to mount the skid plate is the center stand framework. The way we are tying the two sides together with a very stout mount will reduce the chance of the footpeg mounts rotating sideways, which is what happened in the photo of the engine block you posted. As you can see in the photo there is more strength in the block above where the footpeg / center stand mounts tie into the block but almost no support to the rear of the mounting hole. This will help with bottom impacts. In addition the shock block we are using between the skid plate and oil pan will help disperse the energy from big bottom hits.

    As we said we are still in our testing process and expect to "prove" our design to be up to the task shortly. Once we have we will be off to production.

    Thanks for your support and patience
    Kurt
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  18. linssen

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    That's awesome. So not only fixing up the squidgy OEM skid plate, and extending its reach, but improving the rotational force probs. Hope that testing goes well, and hope it goes quickly ;)
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    I’m curious about the skid plate and the “crap flap” area. I can see that the horn is behind it and it has to pass tests, but what about airflow? Will you do temperature tests to make sure blocking that area doesn’t affect the engine?

    I realize the motor is water cooled.
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    BlackDogCycleWorks Been here awhile Super Supporter

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    It's been a few weeks and we wanted to share a few updates on the progress of our Ultimate Skid Plate for the KTM 790.

    Be sure to vote in our poll for powder coat finish options for the upcoming 790 skid plate.

    Now onto the update...

    Our testing of the 790 prototype skid plate has gone very well but we've found a few small changes we want to make before going into production. We're working on pricing and delivery dates but hope to be able to deliver product late October if all goes well in getting it through production. There are still a bunch of to-dos before we can make it available so please be patient ;)

    As for the design we've gone to a two piece configuration to make routine maintenance easier - the front panel and crash bars don’t need to come off for oil changes. We are not connecting to the oil pan as might be commonly thought and our rear mount attaches to the center stand mounting point. Honestly, this is the only substantial spot to mount to in this area. The rear mount is very substantial and also reinforces the foot peg mount - which has been known to break with a hit from the front due to the lack of material on the back of the engine case.

    Our design will work with Hepco Becker, Touratech and SWMotech crash bars (that we know of at this point - maybe others).

    Now some pictures - showing our silver vein (prototype only - production version will be black) and new white finishes which will both likely be offered as options when ordering.

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    That's all for now. Back to the shop and getting those last little details buttoned up so we can get them into production.

    -Black Dog Cycle Works
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