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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Max Kool, Mar 4, 2007.
Well described, we seem to be having the same issue. I do not pop on decel however.
I would say TPS or lamda sensor.
Backfiring on deceleration is often an indicator of a leaky exhaust seal between end can and header.
Is there any realistic troubleshooting/repair to be done to the TPS and O2 sensor besides replacement?
Has this only started happening recently? This sounds like the behaviour that many owners get on the CCM GP450 (uses the BMW 450 engine with a husqy ECU and their own map).
Some blame it on the second throttle plate. It could be it sticks or moves too slowly.
Some owners remove it completely and say that helps, but if I felt mine wasn't working I'd rather fix it, than bin it.
I'm more inclined to point at the ECU switching from a TPS (throttle position Sensor) based fuel map to a MAP (Manifold Air Pressure) map, causing the dip, and switching back again, causing the surge.
This happens if the fuelling on each map are different at the points where they switch across at low revs and low throttle.
A TPS sensor reset might help. I don't know how to do that on a BMW ECU though...
Thanks, will have a look. I noticed that I can prevent most of the backfiring by keeping the throttle firmly closed when changing gears. I might have developed some lazy habits on bikes that are not prone to backfiring.
In a way yes. It has been without issue for the last few months, but it has always done this sporadically since original purchase. Just popped up again. I have heard about that second butterfly valve, but also feel like the BMW engineers understood what they were doing. Maybe not...
There has got to be a solution
If only we could just plug into tune-ECU and rectify such an issue.
Somebody makes a breakout connector for the TPS, so you can hook up a voltmeter easily, with the engine running. It was a while ago, but I've found it:
Quote from a café Husqy thread(http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/2011-te449-running-well-with-factory-efi-system-finally.41069/)
"http://www.tpstool.com/ (Use the one for EXC models with EFI, plug with 3 pins in a line"
Is your bike running reduced power map or is the high performance plug installed?
Reduced power map always
Like others said, I would look at Throttle Position Sensor.
That TPS reset guide on cafe husky looks like a great place to start, thanks for digging that up. Having a dealer re flash to map 3 seems like a logical step as well. Thank you
I run the Acerbis X factors and they fit well for me, cables worked out fine as far as I can remember.
Try pulling off your throttle body and cleaning it. When I replaced mine I noticed the old one was so dirty the butterflies did not seat. Rap the exhaust so the fuel doesn't get so hot. This will effect your fuel pump. My bike would shut down and I found if I added fuel it would start up.
Thanks, I’ll add this to the list.
I just remembered another issue with the fuel injection system I had. One of the spade connectors on the fuel pump brake off. This caused it to cut in and out from time to time plus there is a ground wire on the cylinder that was loose causing the same issue.
I had my 450x for 5 years and 16500 mile. Most of my headaches were with the fuel injection and by the time I sold my bike all of that was replaced.
I see, I’ve heard about the ground wire issue. Out of curiosity, how did you manage to put 16,000 on the clock? Lots of woods riding or did run run some TAT or BDR’s?
Anyone have accessories for their G450x laying around? Looking for a safari tank and a rear tail rack.
I saw your bike is for sale, new plans for it emerge, or farkling it for better sales responce?
I am considering keeping it. I was going to sell and get something shorter for my son to do Adventure rides with me, but he is so busy with other adventures, I dont hink he will ever have the time to do a 10 day run. I just as well should keep it for myself. I enjoy the heck out of it compared to the 250's I had.
Until I buy the new husky! those are so nice!