I was caught in a gullywasher last summer wearing my Atlantis 3pro jacket (with rain pants over regular leather pants) for about half an hour with rain heavy enough to limit visibility and i was going 20MPH past pulled over cars on the highway. None of the seams or zippers leaked a drop, even without the liner. I did have a gouge on my chest from a light crash and this area leaked a small patch, but i assume it needs to be retreated. It sounds like manufacturing defects for the OP. I've just upgraded to an Atlantis 4 jacket and am hoping the manufacturing quality did not drop when they moved production from Romaina to Bosnia. I doubt i have any recourse having used an ebay auction. I'd be very surprised if the OP, having bought from a dealer, couldn't take the complaint up the chain of command to get a refund if it didn't fail under very extreme circumstances. Too bad he seems to have been a one post wonder.