BMW C400X / C400GT

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  1. cabanza

    cabanza Smooth is Fast

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    Not sure about the displacement but it should be their 650 cc. I guess BMW's response to Honda's X-ADV?

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  2. cabanza

    cabanza Smooth is Fast

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    Didn't Kymco show/leak a maxi with a beak?
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    Sure don't see any proper off-road USD suspension on those vs what Honda did.
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  5. cabanza

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    I would say it looks more BMW than Kymco. If you look at the first pic, there's a place for the BMW roundel.
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  6. Tarka

    Tarka Strangely strange. Oddly normal.

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    Looks like a lard arsed Big Ruckus with a bit of Tupperware added.
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  7. cabanza

    cabanza Smooth is Fast

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    So you like it then :lol3
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  8. SteverinoB

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    Perhaps someone has repurposed N existing 650GT or Sport?
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  9. Dabears

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    If BMW (or any manufacturer for that matter) is considering an adv style in the 350 cc range you would have my attention. A stylized big Ruckus would be sweet.
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  10. JerryH

    JerryH To Each Their Own Supporter

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    I would not buy a BMW anything, but would love to see someone build a TRUE adventure or dual sport scooter. Something actually capable of being ridden off road. By it's very nature a scooter is not going to have the ground clearance of a dual sport motorcycle, but should have a lower seat. I think it would work if it had heavy duty bash plates to protect the bottom of it when it got slammed down on a rock, and a sealed CVT to keep out dirt. Most scooters have two CVT vents, an intake and exhaust. The variator fan sucks in air through a small filter at the front, and blows it out an unfiltered vent in the back. That seems to work ok on the road, but riding in the desert, sand and dust gets everywhere. I found the sealed tail light and turn signal housings filled with dirt on my XT225.

    I would rather see a more off road oriented version of the 50cc Ruckus, with a larger engine and minimal bodywork. Maybe 16" wheels. I don't really see why a scooter needs bodywork at all. Just a stepthrough or semi stepthrough frame with a scooter drivetrain. By angling the engine/CVT case downward at the rear, you could get more ground clearance, but it would come at the expense of a higher seat. My original attraction to scooters was how easy they were to get on and off of, and the CVT works great on level roads, eliminating having to constantly clutch and shift. But it has it's limitations on small displacement scooters, it has a very limited ratio range which is biased toward top speed, making it impossible to keep the engines RPMs up while climbing slowly. An off road scooter would either need a wide ratio CVT, or an engine big enough to overcome the high load/slow speed issue.
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    Didn't Honda do that with the X-ADV???
    It sure has some serious off-road bits...more so than anything else by a large margin.
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  12. cabanza

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    I guess I called that one one day early! :lol3

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  15. cabanza

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    • BMW C400X
    • 350cc single
    • 33.5bhp and 25.8lbft.
    • 775mm seat height
    • 204kg (wet) that's about 449 pounds wet
    • 15" wheel on the front and 14" on the back
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  16. cabanza

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    Ok, BMW, you've got my attention...

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  17. cabanza

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    TFT screen is an option

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  18. cabanza

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    Flex compartment just like on the C650 Sport

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  19. cabanza

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    Keyless ride is an option

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  20. victorzamora

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    That's definitely BMW-styled. It's confirmed now, but there's 3 places for roundels easily seen in the first post. The shape of the tail over the rear seat, the details of the top-case rack, the shape of the exhaust, etc. The windshield looks like it was lifted directly off of the new R1200GSW, along with the handlebars...and even the wonder wheel.
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