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BMW G650X Challenge Thread Index

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by GB, Apr 24, 2008.

  1. Rev Kiecker

    Rev Kiecker Been here awhile

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    Rubber straps will fail in time and having a boucing expolsion behind probably isn't the best idea. I'd highly suggest looking at rigidly mounting it to your machine or at a minimum using rachet tie down straps vs rubber.
  2. Rev Kiecker

    Rev Kiecker Been here awhile

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    It appears you are using the swivel mount the LV provided for the hanger. I'd highly suggest you search this site for cases when the swivel rotates down and your header rolls and touches the coolant hose by the motor. Loosen your header now, roll it up as far as humanly possible, and mount the hanger directly to the bolt without using a swivel. Just sayin :D
  3. frostyuk

    frostyuk Been here awhile

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    doesn't that mean you have unfiltered air coming into the air box from an area where all the road dirt/dust is likely to be ??
  4. aprilian

    aprilian Can I change this?

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    I have a G650x clutch question.

    When warm everything is as it should be, however when cold, the clutch is very grabby and almost feels like it alternates between grab and slip every other second. I do ride the xmoto hard, so I wouldn't be surprised to get some wear, but I can't figure out why it would exhibit wear related slipping only when cold.

    Motul semi synthetic 10-40 with about 2k miles
    total miles 4k
    appropriate free play at the lever
    cold morning temp of aprox 65 degrees f
    chain free play adjusted

    Damn thing makes me look like a newbie as the bike lurches away from wherever I parked it.

    Hoping to figure this out before a September track day.
  5. macadamia

    macadamia XK Red 27 Technique

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    Er, move to where it's warm... I moved from Minneapolis back in 2002 to southern california and have never looked back...
  6. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

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    Yes it does, from one of the worst places possible for moisture as well. Plug it back up.
  7. Glowplug

    Glowplug Been here awhile

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    I had this problem for the brief time that I was using full-synth.
  8. muddyrabbit

    muddyrabbit Lost Boy

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    BMW has documented in their "puma" files an ongoing issue with the clutch actuator arm creating a metal burr where it rotates in the case and sticks, but this doesnt really sound like what you are experiencing. If you do end up needing to replace the clutch discs the G650 engine uses the same clutch as the F650 Dakar and you can get the EBC clutch discs and springs. I did the swap a while back after a certain dealer in Cleveland (rhymes with gills) tried to blatently con me telling me my clutch was shot. It wasnt, but I had already ordered the EBC, so I eventually did swap it in. I also still have my stock discs, which are fine, in case you need them and are in a pinch.
  9. macs

    macs n00b

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    Hello Steve,

    it's defenetly not a piece of a clutch spring.
    I found a identical piece in my oil drain when I was crossing africa 2 years ago and was unable to find out where it comes from.
    Good message is that I made about 25.000 K since then without any problems in the gearbox. Only thing is that sometimes it is difficult to shift into neutral.

    So if you have found out where the piece comes from I would be happy if you share that knowledge with me.





  10. foxqc

    foxqc Adventurer

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    Drone and plumber mike, you were right!

    :clap

    The stock muffler is the culprit!

    I changed it with a new one and everything is back to normal.
    I truly appreciate you help. My dealer was not pointing at the muffler, apparently...

    So again, thanks!

    JF
  11. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    :rilla

    My work is done.

    Think I'll go for a ride.
  12. tele-steve

    tele-steve ya' mon

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    Hey Macs
    It didn't come from the clutch springs or the valve springs. The dealer took the valves out for inspection and found nothing. Their best guess was that something fell into the crank during the build. Anyways, they put it all back together and all seems to be fine. Mine is a pain to find neutral as well. I've found that that it is much easier to find just as I'm about to stop moving. Once I've stopped, there is little chance of actually getting it into neutral.




  13. Niedz

    Niedz Been here awhile

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    Oh yes the nuetral thing. I learned in the first week owning the bike to find nuetral while you are still rolling!
  14. LangKat

    LangKat Adventurer

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    I was also struggling with finding neutral when I had stopped moving. I adjusted my clutch cable a bit yesterday and now it is pretty smooth.

    Just followed the guidelines in the owner's manual.

    Such a simple fix probably won't help many people but it is worth trying.
  15. DirtTrailER

    DirtTrailER Adventurer

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    The problem with Neutral is usually caused by the incorrect clutch adjustment. If your cable is too loose, then you cannot disengage the clutch completely - that causes your gears to be pulled and will prevent snapping into neutral.

    Try to reduce the clutch cable slack and try shifting gears - don't overdo, not enough slack may prevnt full engagement and cause your clutch to slip and will burn your plates prematurely.

    BJ
  16. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    After this post, you posted this is a 1994-2003 CB500 twin. You stated the brake lever fits. What about a clutch lever?
  17. The Jester

    The Jester Long timer

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    I'm currently using a clutch lever from a 97 LC4 with the pivot point drilled out from 6mm to 8mm. You could go this route but I have a suspicion that the lever from a F650GS single may fit. These should be available as a pattern part.
  18. Tomdog

    Tomdog Mapaholic

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    I've just bought this one to carry as spare. Will let you know if it works once it arrives.

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  19. gumbellion

    gumbellion Been here awhile

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    What insert are you guys running in your leo-vince and what is the benefit of each one? I am not an exhust guru but what I am guessing is the ones that are the longest should provide the most low end torque and the shorter ones should be max HP. Or am I out to lunch?
    The best i can figure for the outlets is that the shorter outlets are just so that you can run the spark arrestor and the longer outlet is without the screen in place, is there anything else going on that I cant wrap my pea brain around with these?
    It seems like this exhaust is louder than the x3 I was running on my Husky 610 but obviously cannot determine that.
    Thanks
  20. NuckaMan

    NuckaMan Space Available

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    Why did BMW discontinue a variation of this model?

    I would consider a G650 of the current edition if it had USD forks and spoked wheels. Perhaps in the near future?