BMW G650X Issue Log (xCountry, xChallenge, xMoto)

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by andrewgore, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. Lankbrown

    Lankbrown No Pain No Gain

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    I posted this on another tread about the fuel filter and possible blockage. I don't know why we should expect BMW to do anything different as it is all about money is it not!!!!!!

    To get into the tank just use a drift and a hammer. Works fine

    Cheers

    Replacement filters are not available as BMW has decide to claim that they are a life time filter. They will supply if you have to replace your fuel pump at a cost of $700AUS.

    This may sound incredible but I had to replace my fuel pump(contaminated fuel) after 35,000 K's BMW Australia wanted $700 for the unit or I could buy a Bosch for $150. No guesses which one I chose.

    I then need to replace the Mahle fuel filter. Mahle have them in stock but will not supply as they have a contract with BMW. BMW dealers will not supply as there is no part number unless you buy the complete unit for $700 AUS.

    I have complained to BMW Australia and they will not supply or permit Mahle to sell the product as it is against BMW policy.

    I spent two hours reverse flushing the filter to improve it as a last resort. At this point I am unable to get a replacement. If any one has more luck than me and can get a BMW dealer to purchase direct from Mahle I would appreciate being in the loop.
  2. motoreiter

    motoreiter Long timer

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    My xchallenge still suffers from stalling...I will try the GS911 solution posted above, but also suspect the voltage regulator.

    One question for help in diagnosing whether the voltage regulator is the problem: I've noticed that if I rev the bike in neutral (or with clutch in, etc.), the voltage indicator generally does not show an increase in voltage. Is that normal? Could that be a sign of a faulty voltage regulator?

    Also, when starting the bike, voltage is usually at about 12.6, while riding it usually gets up to the mid-teens, only very occasionally up to 14. BTW, this is with a brand new YAUSA battery.
  3. plumber mike

    plumber mike Highdive Deepened

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    This may be way off and forgive me for not reading back, but have you already disabled your sidestand switch? It has cured all driveability issues for me. 8000 miles trouble free.
  4. motoreiter

    motoreiter Long timer

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    No, I haven't disabled it, and am not sure that it would help. I think the side stand switch can cause stalling if you're on the bumps, but mine stalls when starting in the parking lot, and then stalls frequently until it warms up a bit. Do you think that disabling the sidestand switch would help?
  5. Muckpee

    Muckpee Noobie Adventurer

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    My 07 xcountry (29000km) used to start 100% with a quick touch of the button.. now i've noticed it starts but then will often stall a couple times. When it's idling cold and i give it a little throttle to rev it it can stall or idle irradically. When driving away on it cold at constant speed it seems the motor is lurching... seems to go away by opening up the throttle... BIke was serviced 4000km ago and has brand new battery+new wiring harness. It has also developed an oil leak :baldy
  6. motoreiter

    motoreiter Long timer

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    These are exactly the problems I am having. There is lots of advice on here about how to fix, lots of people did "x" "y" "z" or "q" and the problem went away for them, but the problem is figuring out which of the fixes will work for you.
  7. plumber mike

    plumber mike Highdive Deepened

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    A dirty or poor connection on any of the safety switches can cause problems at any time. At higher rpm it will kill the motor and resume running so quickly that it will appear the bike is running poorly. I don't know if this is your problem or not, but by bypassing it and connecting the three wires together it will either cure the problem or rule it out as the problem. It's worth trying the easy stuff first:dunno I also found that by removing the sidestand switch and grinding off the metal guard I was able to gain a little more ground clearance in a very fragile area of the bike.

    Best of luck to you and please keep us posted.
  8. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    Not sure I understand. The "mid-teens"? Maybe you meant "mid-thirteens"? If yes, then those numbers sound pretty typical. Maybe Somber could chime in? He's the first one to discover the voltage regulator fix.
  9. motoreiter

    motoreiter Long timer

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    er, yes, sorry for the mistatement.
  10. Alcanara

    Alcanara 's not me occifer

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    Hi Folks,

    I have just had a similar situation to many posts here re the battery going dead etc etc etc, however..... I had an error message come up "A65" in big letters on the main display readout.... and 1.9 in smaller letters on the lower display readout???????

    Any ideas peoples?

    Stuart :eek1 :eek1
  11. Cycleman4

    Cycleman4 Been here awhile

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    Not sure if this has been discussed or not but I was having trouble with my 07 xchallenge running/cutting out. If you have taken off the smog equipment you need to make sure that you leave the breather valve in place and hooked up to the sensor. Without this the bike throws error codes and runs crappy and looses gas mileage. Just throwing it out there for those who have not checked that.
  12. Max Kool

    Max Kool Xtankteam™

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    Which sensor? I thought it was just a solenoid to cut off the breather hose to the charcoal canister...
  13. slide

    slide A nation with a future

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    I am running without any the cannister or solonoid. My dealer says it throws code(s) but it functions perfectly.
  14. Max Kool

    Max Kool Xtankteam™

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    I don't believe disconnecting the solenoid throws codes. On european bikes the solenoid isnt even there. Just an open connector...
  15. slide

    slide A nation with a future

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    I only report what my dealer told me. He checked codes during a recall. He said it was throwing codes due to the missing cannister / soloniod.
  16. Mal_B

    Mal_B Adventurer

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    Model: XChallenge
    Year: 2007
    ABS: no
    Mileage at time of issue: 3500km
    Date of occurrence:June 2010
    Modifications (if any): Many.
    Description of Failure(s): Surging, stalling unable to start or idle occasionally. Idle actuator faults in log.
    Resolution (if any): Replaced idle actuator.

    Seems fine now after idle actuator replacement. Two other people at least reporting this in this thread - seems like an issue for these bikes.
  17. plumber mike

    plumber mike Highdive Deepened

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    Mine says the same thing. I think it just shows the open circuit. I'll check the paperwork to see the code #. I think it's there.
  18. Kiwi Tinkerer

    Kiwi Tinkerer Ross

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    Model: XChallenge
    Year: 2009
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    Mileage at time of issue: 6500km
    Date of occurrence:2009/2010
    Modifications (if any): none.
    Description of Failures and Resolutions:
    1-Logs indicated idle actuator fault. Would re-occur if I cleared the log. (GS-911) I then ran the "reset idle actuator". No more issues with that.
    2- Broke off gear lever. Shaft OK. replaced with steel after market lever.
    3- Battery replaced under warranty. BMW campaign. I had no problems with it.
    4- Inner guard rubbing wear mark in shock bladder. I bent it out using heat gun before it did any real damage. Then 2 months later BMW dealer rang me to say he had a new one as part of BMW pro-active replacement campaign.
    5- at same time BMW replaced upper chain guide roller assembly. Again pro-active campaign.
    6- Dropped bike in a big dirty puddle. Oil light on permanently, even with key out of ignition. BMW replacing instrument cluster under warranty.

    So overall I am very happy with the bike. I have learned a lot about off road riding on it. I have dropped it countless times. The bark busters are worth their weight in gold. BMW have contacted me for 3 pro-active replacements for things I had not reported to them. And now they are going to replace the instrument cluster.
    I had an original f650 and then the Aprilia (5-valve) version of the same bike. (Built on same line). Then a 1200GS and back to the 650. (Again built by Aprilia). great bike.
  19. Muddler

    Muddler Long timer

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    What a difference a good dealer makes. Certainly dont get that sort of help in Perth WA. Unfortunately they have no competition here.

  20. slide

    slide A nation with a future

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    I can't tell you how true I feel that sentiment is. My dealer is an ace and it really does make me more inclined to buy another BMW. Or maybe that if the dealer was a dud, I'd be disinclined to buy another BMW.

    All my dealings with this dealer leave me thinking I got great value for my money. Can't ask more than that.