I was finally able to get some information about the newer BMW NP Armor. I started in April as a result of the posts contained in the thread below: www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207629&page=7&highlight=halvarssons (pages 7-9) Some of this is a rehash of posts from that thread. I was in a BMW dealer a few weeks ago and picked up their 2007 Rider's Apparel catalog. Low and behold, there's quite a bit of information all about it. I don't know why this information is not included on www.bmw-riders-gear.com (EDIT: It is now - here). I scanned the two pages that detail the armor (pages 46-47). There are also 2 small graphs on page 46 that I scanned separately. A&S BMW Motorcycles has a short video clip about the armor: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NiSXiu0LJ0&mode=related&search During that video they refer to the first graph for the NP Armor Protectors (not the Back Protector 2) at about 0:50, stating "The armor material hardens upon impact, plus expanded coverage areas significantly increase delay time to impact, increasing rider safety. BMW NP soft armor has a delay time that is almost twice that of PU armor competitors." The video also shows the text below during this dialogue: Competitors Hard Armors 1 ms Competitors PU Armors 2-4ms BMW NP Armor 5-8ms The second graph is not referred to. The clip is worth watching. After looking at the info, I have a few questions. It says "BMW Motorrad actually applies stricter standards to its protectors, which acheive the lowest residual forces on the market: only 10 to 12 kN in the case of the joint protectors, and 4 to 6 kN for the back protectors." Later it says" The BMW Motorrad protector has a measured residual force of less than 2 kN..." Thought it was bewteen 4 and 6 kN? If it is 2 kN, then that's the best I've ever seen (BKS for example are 4 kN - www.bksleather.co.uk/techno.htm#safety). And is this for both the NP Back Protector and the Motorrad Back Protector 2? I think so, but... Finally, they mention a test that generates up to 180 kN of force. Okay what's that in joules? And the wording here confuses me a bit. Are they only taking about the back protector tests? Do they test the limb/joint protectors with the same test? I tried to convert to joules, but I guess I did it wrong. The results didn't make any sense to me. The EN 1621-1:1997 mentions details 3 levels. 35 kN residual force at 50 joules (level 1), 75 joules (level 2), and 100 joules (level 3). Where does the NP armor (which measured at 10.12 kN) fall? While I was at the dealer, I tried on their new Boulder jacket, which has the new armor in the back and on the joints. It was very nice. I didn't even really feel the armor and it comformed well to my body. Quite comfortable. A&S BMW Motorcylces sells the NP armor separately from what I was told on the phone. I don't know if other dealers will. All this being said, I think I will end up getting the standard sized limb/joint armor from TPro (Four Layer "Armour-Flex). I have three jackets that I use and to have all 3 modified to fit the new NP armor would get too expensive for my taste and I don't wish to use velcro and adhesives to make it stay in place. I think it's great that the armor offers more coverage and is assymetrical, but it negates switching the armor between jackets that use the standard size. So, I may own NP armor down the road, but it will only be when I buy a BMW jacket that includes it. I'm glad to see that armor is getting better and better and that companies are testing it to back up their claims. I hope that the Halvarssons Safety Suit does well and other companies start to take notice.