I just finished reading this entire thread. My thanks to those who have contributed. You've raised a lot of issues for me. One thing I've noticed is that nobody here compares the EG to a GS Dry jacket. I had one for two years and never in that time got wet. My other main jacket for the past several years has been a MotoPort Marathon, so I long ago acquired the habit of carrying a rain jacket (I really like the BMW RainLock 2). I don't mind pulling over and putting it on, at least if the thought occurs to me before the rain begins. So that means the EG not being waterproof is for me more an annoyance than a dealbreaker. I tend to never leave the house without the RainLock. For me then, the main issues--and I'm writing this to eventually arrive at a question--are protection, fit, longevity, understated branding, probably in that order. My riding is usually in sunny, warm conditions, but the temp can drop quickly when it rains or at altitude; and I tend to run cold. My GS Dry was rarely too warm, but at times I was cold even with a Warm and Safe Jacket, pants, and socks. So I'm looking for something that will vent really well, but also, with a windproof layer over the top (if needed) and a couple warm layers underneath, keep me warm when I'm still 4 or 5 hours from home and the temperature is dropping fast. Based on comments here, the unlined EG isn't the best cold weather jacket, with for example the Street Guard offering more in that area--but then I lose the hot weather advantages of the EG. I've wanted a Rallye for a couple years, and wonder if the latest iteration is a better choice for all-round purposes. I can easily live with the over-jacket, have heard multiple times that it vents very well, and believe it to be protective and comfortable. I don't much care for its appearance: if I downsize from the GS to something like a BMW scooter, I think I'd feel a bit silly in the Rallye but not in the EG.