BMW's new parallel twins - F800/650GS (merged) threadfest...

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by kejago, Oct 11, 2005.

  1. ramjet

    ramjet Long timer

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    Are 800s coming to US? And when? I like 'em.
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  2. brap

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    The orientation of the crankshaft in the BMW boxers make belts and chains impractical. My interpretation of the press release is that BMW praise the belt due to parts of the BMW communitys history of preaching the superiority of shaft drives, and the suckiness of other final drives.
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  3. Ostrich

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    You never know where there is a will there is a way. The belt seems lighter, quieter, and easier to maintain. :dunno Then again, I have a tendancy to talk out my ass.
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  4. charleshmosesii

    charleshmosesii No skills no worries

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    Not sure where you got that from, as bmw motorrad site fact sheet says those numbers are 391/425, not 412/441. Dunno though, just going by what they say.
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  5. hmoro

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    Are there any news on the twin F800 powerplant attached to a newer Dakar or GS800 model?
    Any pics?
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  6. John E Davies

    John E Davies Runs at Mouth Adventurer

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    I've been looking hard, but not seen any word of a Dakar version yet.

    I am hoping BMW will take the same approach that they did with the big GS, and shave off a serious amount of dead weight. With that cool F800 engine, good long travel suspension and 375 pounds, or less, dry weight the bike would be awesome IMHO.

    If wishs were fishes, we would all cast nets.

    John Davies
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  7. * SHAG *

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    Probably be a year or so,, but I'm sure it's in the works! I've never ridden a 650, but the twin 800 would interest me, big time!
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  8. Towpilot

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    I have heard from an undisclosed reliable source that it WILL happen.
    First, they'll introduce the belt driver, sell a bunch of those, then we'll get the 800 dual sport.
    Don't know when.
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  9. goblin

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    Is that twin as in boxer twin?
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  10. Towpilot

    Towpilot OverVNE

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    No, it's a parallel twin. Brand new motor.
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  11. Ostrich

    Ostrich Jaded and Happy

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    we'll wait and see, but I have to take my hat off to BMW for being unusually bold for them. Great job. :beer
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  12. John E Davies

    John E Davies Runs at Mouth Adventurer

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    This is a new English language website devoted to the upcoming new F650 replacement, due in the USA for MY2007 at the earliest. Pics and the latest news and possible pricing.

    http://bmwf800.org/

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    An official BMW spec sheet:
    http://bmwf800.org/IMG/F800ST/F800STspecs.pdf

    411 pounds (187 kg) dry weight for the ST - that is disappointing to me. I hope they cut 30 pounds or more off for the Dakar version.

    I was looking for other hi-rez images of these new bikes. I found this post with links, but they were down when I tried. Maybe someone else will have better luck with these 2.5 MB images:

    http://bmwf800.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=45

    I have just started reading the info at the site. I will post any interesting tidbits.

    John Davies
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  13. charleshmosesii

    charleshmosesii No skills no worries

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    I won't be a buyer of a brand new motor for a long time, no siree.
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  14. Ostrich

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    I just want to see what happens with it.
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  15. Rad

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    Do we really know that this is a replacement for the 650 single, not just another model?
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  16. JamesJWeg

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    A 800 twin wouldn't be in a Dakar model would it? Since it couldn't run in Dakar? Or would that be too technical for marcketing? I hope they don't attach the Dakar name to it in any way, in fact I wish BMW would totally drop the name Dakar and use Adventure. The twin size limit for dakar really pisses me off, I refussed to watch Dakar this year because of it.

    James.
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  17. John E Davies

    John E Davies Runs at Mouth Adventurer

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    Yes.

    This is IMHO the main reason BMW recently made a drastic MSRP price cut (US$1000+) on existing inventory of F650s. The F800 is definitely the next generation replacement.

    John Davies
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  18. Rad

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    I'm glad BMW is building a midsized bike, 800cc is about my favorite size. But, I can't imagine BMW producing an “off road” version of this twin. At best, BMW will produce what it has done in the past, and to their credit, sold very well; a heavy dual sport version. I say this because their dual sports that have sold so well, both the R's and F's have always been one of the heaviest in their respective classes.

    It will be fun to watch
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  19. Rad

    Rad Done riding

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    Daymn, that "Rotax" was one bullet proof single:nod
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  20. Ostrich

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    I thought you were joking, but you're not. :yikes I was looking forward to seeing how the R1200 HPN would perform against the toomer.
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