Boots matter

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by Gregg Wannabe, Nov 24, 2013.

  1. Chibiabos

    Chibiabos Child of the Magenta Line

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    I get what you're saying, but that seems little too much "helmets are more dangerous because they subconciously encourage you to take more risks" for my tastes. If your tall MX boots are so uncomfortable that they're distracting you then you should probably take a good look at how you're putting them on and if they even fit you right in the first place. Same with the body armor. If it's really an effort to just wear it then there's probably a reason why, totally exclusive from the idea that it just comes with the territory.
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  2. cmattina

    cmattina Been here awhile

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    The most crash resistant helmet may not be the most comfortable, but the most comfortable helmet may prevent the most injury by allowing the rider to focus on road. Also why i wear a nice jacket with upgraded armour rather than a leatt adventure body armour.

    It is not the height, it is the stiffness and shifter feel. That said, if can find an MX boot that gives me great shifter/brake feel and all day comfort, obviously that is a good boot. I do enjoy being able to walk to a cliff edge for a picture too...

    If i were trailering, i would def be wearing mx boots and leatt body armour.
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  3. Chibiabos

    Chibiabos Child of the Magenta Line

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    Again, I get your point. It just seems like you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. :dunno
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  4. Misery Goat

    Misery Goat Positating the negative Super Moderator

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    +1 On the boots. It seems like every accident I've witnessed where the rider wasn't wearing boots they had significant foot/ankle trauma. When I was traveling by moto and the bike was my only transportation I would occasionally ride without all my gear when just doing short runs to specific destinations in town but I always wore my helmet, gloves, and boots. It seems like the feet take the brunt of the damage on get offs.

    I had a pretty good biff at speed some years back where I got full compression while I was up on the pegs and my foot got sandwiched b/w the ground (off camber) and the foot peg. 8 metatarsal breaks and a dislocated big toe. The breaks were all stable fractures so no surgery needed and the dislocated big toe ended up being the worst of it. I had my Sidi Flexforce on and I think my injuries would've been much worse if I had a lesser boot on.
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  5. Little Bike

    Little Bike Air/Clutz Sue Supporter

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    Saw a pic of a nasty accident the other day, bone protruding out the bottom of the guy’s foot. Yuck. Wasn’t wearing motorcycle boots.
  6. Chibiabos

    Chibiabos Child of the Magenta Line

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    I used to wear Bellevilles on my motorcycle, which was great for walking, but not having my ankle shattered and/or ripped apart is pretty damned good for walking too.

    MX boots all fucking day long. I can always pack some walking shoes with me.
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  7. DrPayne

    DrPayne Not a doctor

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    IMO, MX boots aren't even enough. I just broke my foot due to improper foot protection and almost immediately went for the toughest MX boots I could find, Sidi Crossfires, and I'd still like more protection. Think a good pair of AT ski boots. I have no problem walking in my downhill ski boots, and if they can make a pair that I can shift gears in, that's what I'd wear on any sort of trip of consequence. I'll take protection over comfort any day, and if I need to go for a walk, I can always change!
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  8. skag

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    Back in the day we wore Scott plastic mx boots.They were too stiff and because of the limited ankle range of movement, they were knee snappers. They had incredible protection and were as close to a riding ski boot as you could get.
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    skag No Monkeys

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  10. cmattina

    cmattina Been here awhile

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    Rhino-1 Long timer

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    I wear Sidi Vertebra track/Hi-Performance street boots, most of the time. Have to admit that I wear Danner or RedWing boots on the Harley. Boots, like armor or helmet, are a compromise between comfort and security. I won't argue that I shouldn't always wear the full armor, but it just doesn't work out that way. Find a good pair of ADV or better boots. MX boots on the street is unrealistic for most. A nice pair of oiled Gaerne's is not, usually.
  12. Zongie

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    I have always had issues paying top money for footwear... until last month when my son-in-law was T-boned by a doped up teenager. He was fully kitted and his only injury is four broken bones in his foot. It was trapped between the car and the bike when she hit him. I shudder to think what his injuries would have been had he been in jeans and sneakers!
    My first purchase was these https://www.boydmotorcycles.co.nz/s...dqKMnsTBsvFNQ6a-atLZOCfHUrhwaAtnsEALw_wcB&t=3
    Most money I've ever paid for footwear but after visiting him in the hospital and seeing the results, my old soft 2nd hand boots were history.
    Next thing I suppose is a decent armoured jacket?
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  13. c_m_shooter

    c_m_shooter Ninja Warrior Supporter

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    Good choice, much cheaper than my $3,500 (in network, double that if I get taken out of network by mistake) insurance deductible.
  14. lifeofliberty

    lifeofliberty If you're bored, you're not living

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    Took some flak from riders (here) who are convinced "nobody wears MX boots" on a touring bike. I do. Dirt, street, town, casino, doesn't matter. I've got them on. I learned the hard way. Didn't mention the skin graft that was required, or the flesh that rotted off in the cast, leaving a hole on my heel that still bothers me to this day from wearing the wrong boots.

    The decades of pain, surgeries, fusion, etc., that I've endured wasn't enough to convince those who have NOT had severe foot/ankle trauma that MX boots are actual worth serious consideration, wherever you ride.

    It's irrelevant if "you can't walk to the toilet" or wherever you're trying to go (you can) when considering safety gear. If you're on the bike, you should be wearing the best protection you can afford. Feet / ankle and lower limbs take some of the worst punishment of all in a crash, or even in a simple tip-over or foot slip.

    Those guys should read this thread - and others like it.
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  15. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams Supporter

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    Yep. Wear the most boot you can. :thumb
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  16. davenowherejones

    davenowherejones short old guy

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    I wear decent boots but I also see a lot of stupid people on motorcycles.

    I shake my head a lot at the stupidity I see.
  17. Wildmtn

    Wildmtn Been here awhile

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    I'm in the same boat. I wear my MX boots everywhere and always while riding.
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  18. Adjustor

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    Just came across this thread. I’m 5 months into a left foot injury that happened at the end of June. 1/2 a mile from the exit on the interstate going 65 mph.... saw a full sized 4x8’ sheet of OSB lying flat in the left lane of a 3 lane road. I started moving right to avoid it just before a semi tractor trailer went by it. The air from the truck completely lifted the plywood off the road and made it airborn like a flying carpet. I almost avoided it. It flew into my left foot full tilt. Somehow, I kept the bike up and pulled to the side of the road in excruciating pain. Luckily my brother was behind me and pulled over as well. I looked down and didn’t see any damage to my boot ( Older BMW ADV boot, heavy leather- not like a a plastic MX boot) but the pain was unbearable. After a few minutes, I figured the best plan was to ride home about 4 Miles and go to the ED as I don’t think I could have managed the pain until an ambulance arrived.

    Bad timing combined with someone that didn’t secure their load earlier in the day.

    Fast forward. The plywood blew a hole in the top and side of my foot and extensively fractured 4 metatarsals. Surgery with 3 plates and 12 screws. 19 weeks later the wound is still healing. It’s had a huge impact on my life and I’m just hoping at this point it’s not a permanent disability.

    Needless to say; I’ll be wearing my heavy MX boots ALL the time if I can get back on the bike. And I’m also extremely grateful that I still have a foot (it would have been gone without boots on) and I’m alive. If that plywood have of rotated more or stayed in the air longer, I doubt I’d be writing this.
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  19. MTBRALPH

    MTBRALPH Been here awhile

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    This conversation is very timely for me. I purchased a KTM 1290 SAS a few weeks ago. For the past year all my riding has been on my 500 EXC, mostly on forest service roads and trails. I wear body armor and Gaerne SG12 motocross boots on the off road bike. For over 30 years and thousands of miles on a series of touring bikes I wore either work boots or jump boots and never had a problem. My favorites are my Corcoran jump boots - last week I was getting ready to order a new pair, mostly for wearing while riding the 1290, but held off after reading this thread.


    The Corcoran’s really offer NO protection from any type of injury. I like them because I can hike or explore around town wearing them. On the other hand, my SG12’s are also very comfortable on 10 hour plus days, day after day, but not very good for much walking in - not waterproof either. I have not tried to ride the 1290 wearing the Gaerne boots yet - maybe tomorrow if the weather cooperates.


    There does not seem to be any good alternative to one or the other of these styles of boots. From what I can see in my research, adventure boots really do not have much protection - at least not without being just relabeled motocross boots. At 65 years old I want as much protection as practical but also want comfort. I plan to take lots of long trips on the 1290 in the next few years - camping and hiking along the way. I also plan to ride some most of the BDRs and at least the “good” parts of the TAT on the 500.


    Any thoughts? Or have I answered my own question?


    Ralph
  20. docwyte

    docwyte Long timer

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    Everything is a compromise. I like my Sidi Adventure boots, they're comfortable and give far more protection than a regular shoe. Yeah, they're not as good as a motocross boot like the Sidi Crossfire but I had issues with shifter feel with those, plus they're just a PITA to wear around town.
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