Building a sidecar "camper".

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by doublemocha, Nov 11, 2015.

  1. Pete-NZ

    Pete-NZ Long timer

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    nice workmanship...
    The frame weight must be staggering...
  2. doublemocha

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    i will weight it when i am done, i am concern about that but i think my 37:11 gear ratio will help. i still need to build auxiliary fuel tank and storage box under the floor. thx
  3. doublemocha

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    thanks, do i remove the abs ring and sensor that is attached to the brake rotor?
  4. doublemocha

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    Out on test drive. I am getting a wobble. My rear tires are 1" taller than front. Would that cause a wobble? What else would cause a wobble?
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    Basically abs ring and sensor can stay, otherwise abs brains will throw a fault.
  6. doublemocha

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    put the same size tires front and rear and it fixed the wobble. thanks
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  7. doublemocha

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    1. it is also a utility vehicle starting to do storage box under :-) part of the road test. the 37:11 gear ratio is great, the transmission, clutch and engine are very happy with it.
    2. the canvas will be done by Great American Canvas in Marina Del Rey, he does a lot of custom work on boats so he is excited to do the custom work on my sidecar, most shop do not want to do custom work. on the body of the side car we will use vinyl canvas used on trucks very thick, on the upper enclosure including the "tent" (camper) we are using regular sunbrella.
    3. auxiliary fuel tank 26"x20"x7, i am thinking not connected to my OEM tank, it will be use for re fueling. if you have experience with this pls share.
    thx
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    canvas.jpg tank1.jpg tank2.jpg
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  8. Hookalatch

    Hookalatch Born Under Bad Sign

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    Pretty interesting project. You weren't hauling that sheet of plywood when you experienced the wobble were you? :lol3
  9. Bar None

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    ^^^^^^
    Looking good!
  10. doublemocha

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    happy mother's day! great ride on pacific coast hwy. IMG_7370.jpg
  11. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Love that seat !! No ham dinner? LOL
  12. DRONE

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    Your buddy Angtlalaska could help you design the plumbing to connect your aux fuel tank to the bike's fuel system but, like you, I'm a fan of keeping it simple. Put a breather on the top of the tank, or as part of the filler cap. Equip the outlet with a manual on/off valve and a small electric pump connected to a short section of fuel hose with a quick disconnect on the end (maybe use a short section of bicycle inner tube as a condom to keep the dirt out). Carry a longer piece of fuel hose with a quick disconnect in your trunk. When you need gas--1. stop and shut off bike, 2. open the tank, 3. connect up your long hose and stick it into the tank, 4. open the valve and throw the switch.
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  13. doublemocha

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    no worries i am coming for my ham dinner
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  14. doublemocha

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    after doing all that work cutting the aluminum etc.... i abandon that plan, i decided to get the auxiliary fuel tank made by http://www.boydwelding.com for the price i decided it is not worth running around getting it welded, pressure tested etc.. here is the drawing. it is 6" x 26" x 19". i am told it is an eleven gallon tank. yes at this point my idea is to use it as a re fueler tank. thx
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  15. Bobmws

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    Their products look well built & reasonably priced. Are they building it to your dimensions? I would add baffles or foam to keep the sloshing/weight transfer to a minimum.
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  16. angtlalaska

    angtlalaska Been here awhile

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    Amado, last time I saw the wife she didn't have the thingy on her foot. You didn't drop anything on her foot did you?

    I have a spare 12 v fuel pump and water proof power cord (with lighted LED) on the boat or in storage you can have if you can wait till I get back to San Pedro. This assumes you want a power pump to transfer fuel. Here is what my set up looks like. 90 degree out of the tank, manual on-off valve, a fuel filter and then the pump.

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    I have a quick disconnect between the sidecar and the motorcycle so I can fill a third parties tank if needed.
  17. doublemocha

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    yes that is my drawing. there will be baffles.thx
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    yes i can wait, i am really in no rush to get the tank functional, i can mount it then get it functional later. i really need to get focus on the canvas, the wife want to take it on a camping test run, hopefully that is end of May i am working till then. let me know when you are back in town. thx
  19. DRONE

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    Richard, the Posi-Flo pump is available anywhere. But I don't know where to find those other three pieces. Could you identify them or, even better, find them online and provide links?
  20. angtlalaska

    angtlalaska Been here awhile

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    Ned,

    Everything was sourced from Summit Racing except the Posi Flow pump. Claude recommended them. They have their own brand plus Earls and a few others. The fuel filter http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-162-551/overview/ was pretty expensive so I got a Summit brand. I used their Summit check valve http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-220192B. The Summit shut off I think was http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ear-230502erl but you need to determine what size fittings you want 6, 8, 10 or 12, AN or NPT or different combinations and make sure you get the correct ones. Hose ends, on the check valve I used straights http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-220701-B and http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-220711-b/overview/

    I started with the nipple on the tank and the inlet to the Pos-Flow pump. That pretty much set the size for everything else. I think the Posi-Flow pump only comes with a certain size inlet and outlet. The Posi-Flow pumps are rated for different head so I got one that would work from the bottom of the sidecar tank to the top of the GSA tank. I recall the flow rates were the same just one would operate with a higher or lower head.
    Summit has so much stuff on their web site I called their order line 1-800-230-3030 explained what I wanted to do and the sales rep assembled all of the parts so they would all fit together. I have since purchased many other items from them and been super happy with them. My new round oil cooler and fittings all came from them. I didn't realize that many fittings come in red, blue, silver or black. If I had to do it over I would have gotten all black so you wouldn't see them.
    I initially got all of these ideas from the Iron Butt Long Distance thread. http://www.ldriders.com/ and specifically from their tech section by Dan Simmonds on his R1200 GS http://www.kk3an.com/tank.html . If you can't locate the parts after talking to Summit let me know I have the Summit receipts somewhere on my computer. The electrical connection wire is from Rigid Industries the LED people. The water proof cable with switch is for their LED light systems. I used a Deutsch plug from Batts Racing http://www.deutschconnector.com/ to connect the pump to the Rigid cable for a water proof connection.
    Rigid web site http://offroad.rigidindustries.com/installation-accessories/40051