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California laws regarding headlights and auxiliary lights

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by upsscott, Aug 25, 2019.

  1. JimVonBaden

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    I've never heard of that before. Most states, I have to say that now, have reasonable laws that say yellow lights are marker lights, so you can have all you want. Not sure how CA manages diesel trucks and similar.
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  2. JimVonBaden

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    Still not tracking. The constitution doesn't cover that either.
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  3. JimVonBaden

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    Completely ignorant thing to teach, IMHO, and also illegal in "most" states.
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  4. yobuddy

    yobuddy Been here awhile

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    I have never been bothered by the CHP and have had driving lights on all my street bikes for many years. Hopefully I don't run into officer Dickhead on Hwy. 70 which I will be on this weekend.
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    Good to know that I got bogus info and probably not taught. Thanks. I am plenty conspicuous on low beams with my yellow Darla's aimed low.
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  6. JimVonBaden

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    You will see people chime in that they do it "to be safer", but I personally hate it. If conspicuity lights are not enough, then nothing will be. Just ask any Fire truck driver how often they get cut off.
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  7. Chazbo

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    Actually, I see many bikers riding with their brights plus running lights. Mostly Harleys, but not all. Do you think that is why cars they are following pull over and the driver gets out and puts his hands on his roof? ;)
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  8. upsscott

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    I’ve never seen a big rig with anything but white lights. I have seen cars with yellow headlights however.
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  9. upsscott

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    Maybe illegal seizure and search. This officer did none of that. I don’t have a problem with being stopped. It happens. What I have a problem with is when I tried to get clarification he got angry and started barking at me and at one point he told me to not be a smart ass. I never tried to be a smart ass. I just was confused about the issue seeing that I just spent a grand on auxiliary lighting two weeks before. I tried being a smart ass to a police officer once when I was in college. It didn’t end well and imo I got what I deserved.
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  10. upsscott

    upsscott Been here awhile

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    He’s a little bald headed nerdy looking guy with zero sense of humor. Not hard to miss.
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  11. upsscott

    upsscott Been here awhile

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    I had a city cop where I live, a motorcycle cop, tell me the same thing. Run them bright.
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  12. KHud

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    I disagree, Jim.

    On my GSA I run with my high beams, OEM auxiliary lights and Clearwater Darlas with amber lenses illuminated during the day. I have been doing something similar to this on all of my bikes, as well as Spousal Unit’s bikes, for nearly ten years. I have encountered hundreds of LEOs in dozens of states and never been flashed or stopped. Even when I have had a long roadside meeting with a sheriff or trooper to discuss their admiration of my riding skills, the lights have never come up. I do get the occasional flash from a civilian that doesn’t like them, but I know from encountering our own bikes and others similarly equipped that they do not blind oncoming drivers. I assume there is the occasional discussion in other vehicles where one person mutters, “Look at that a$$hole.” ......Okay then, he’s aware of me, but I am utterly confident that I am not hindering anyone’s ability to safely operate their vehicle, and law enforcement seems to agree.

    At the inquest looking into my murder by an inattentive or drunk driver, the entire room will erupt in laughter when the culprit says, “I didn’t see him.”
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  13. upsscott

    upsscott Been here awhile

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    This is my thinking exactly.
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  14. LowOnFuel

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    Blinding an on-coming driver with bright lights (day or night) is not a good idea in my estimation, who knows how they (the blinded on-coming driver) is going to react to the situation. If they can't see where they are in the roadway as you pass them it would seem this cannot be safe(r).

    But, what do I know...
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  15. JimVonBaden

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  16. JimVonBaden

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    What search and seizure? :dunno
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    Bored cop.
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  18. KHud

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    What I know is that I am not “blinding” anyone.
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  19. JimVonBaden

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    Like lots of other people here running high beams, or illegal lights, not getting pulled over doesn't make them legal, or recommended.
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  20. Some Beach

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    If you are really interested in “tracking” this topic then I suggest you review search and seizure case law through the years. The US Constitution is a living document that had some amendments to it and has since been interpreted by our courts through case law. It is this case law which dictates a peace officer's ability to stop you (on foot even). Over the years the courts have further defined how strong the rights are against illegal searches and seizures in relation to vehicles. I get it that this stop (a seizure, covered under the constitution) was a minor inconvenience and if the officer was wrong it was probably just an honest mistake. If there was no violation then the stop was bad.

    If you’re still not tracking then I’m not the one who can help. My original statement to the OP was to congratulate him for challenging this stop. It sounds like he tried to have a civilized discussion about the stop with the officer which is the correct way to challenge a stop you believe to be illegal. Sometimes you have to go before a judge before you can prove it was a bad stop.
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