Funny I made a few suspension adjustments and decided on my sprocket selection. Garrett rode the bike and wondered what I had done. I laughed at him because he would not let me change anything before. He liked it.
So you went with the lighter pull spring plate? Why did you post like the original was some kind of issue? Just seems silly. BTW I ordered mine, still waiting, well I think he ordered me one.
Just cuz someone said it was perfect. Now it is perfect to me. Only issue is my missing tendon. Next is my custom 39T sprocket in Team NM colors.
I have done that mod to all my TRRS bikes, never was sure that I could tell the difference though, do you think you feel the difference? --- 39T, Why?
Yes I can feel it since I have so little strength in my clutch finger. Paying me back all those years that I had no sympathy for someone thinking a hydraulic lever was hard. Why not a 39t, what are you running? Stock gearing?
Yes, I tried the smaller front sproket on the 2017, switched back almost immediately though. When I was on the GG I ran the smaller front sprocket and rode in 2nd, it just felt good to me that way plus let me use 1st gear up at your place for some exra oomph. The TRS seems fine to me stock. Hell, you know half is mental I guess I just let myself adapt.
I've never changed gearing on any trials bike that I have owned. I suppose that an argument could be made that one gear is too low or too high, but it all seems to work out by shifting.
I only counter this with: Trials is mental. making changes is mental, so is changing things back to original, lol
At sea level the bikes are fine. At high elevation things become a little twisted. It's sometimes beneficial to have a lower 2nd gear at 7-12k feet. I have always shifted several times in a section. Lots of riders never even use second.
I was trying stuff in 2nd for a while and it didn't seem to do much except speed things up too fast for my brain to keep up with it all. Now, I am only using 2nd for stuff like any larger gaps that I want to get across and some splatters that the kicker is too far away for 1st to work well with. (more of a distance thing and not a height issue as that is still tough for me). For me.....it's amazing how much the bike will do in 1st if wound out before releasing the clutch. 3rd is for hill climbs and I have not been able to rev it up fully and dump the clutch in 3rd anywhere with grippy traction That would probably kill me! Edit: I'd like to try your bike with the gearing when you get it all done.
I had a 39T on my '18 and liked the change, even though it was minimal. I like minimum clutch work when bouncing up rocky creek beds and this helped. I have not changed my '19 yet, because I just told myself to get used to it and work the clutch more. I use 2nd on some bigger ups, but they are usually at the limit of my comfort zone. 3rd is only used for big hill climbs with room to run.
I've never changed gearing on any of my bikes either. I have found the TRS gearing very similar to Sherco too. 1st gear for most riding (all technical stuff, jap-zaps, small roll-ups, small splatters, etc) 2nd gear for bigger hits (bigger roll-ups, medium splatters, gaps, etc) 3rd gear for hills and very large splatters Interesting side-note: I used to always ride in 2nd gear (and 3rd for bigger stuff), but never 1st gear. Then I was riding at TTC with Pat Smage one winter a few years ago and I couldn't believe how much he rode in 1st gear. He was using 1st gear for almost everything! I couldn't believe it. Ever since then, I have purposely rode more and more in 1st gear and have found I've gotten much better because of it.
First gear on modern bikes started to get taller with the Gasser Pro. Sherco was not far behind. The 4RT was always tall too. The Beta was crazy low with a gap between 1st and 2nd, which drove me nuts. I prefer more selection of gears, mainly at our elevation and having more steep terrain (You can have a steep section anywhere, but out west the whole trials can be steep!) I like 2nd to be low enough to still get speed up to attack an obstacle on a slope. I am not talking crazy low either, as most things should be ridden in first. If you never use third your bike is either geared too high or you are not using it to the full potential. Yes, I could just ride the damn bike. But I am not wired that way. If I can make it better for me I will. Besides I have like a 52 card deck of sprockets! And I have made my bike worse before, but that was because I did not have time to really ride it. Flat ground in your yard does not proof anything, no matter how good the obstacles are. You got to go ride something large and bouncy! Another thing about factory gearing. Watch all those video`s of our hero`s. Hop, set up, splatter, nose wheelie and repeat. Most of us ride at a different level.
I too am interested in all that you experienced riders are stating about gearing, but "1st", "2nd', etc. really isn't that helpful; those are just gear positions. What would be most useful - and I know it's not easy to provide - is drive ratios from the crank, through the clutch, through the transmission, and to the rear wheel. That's the only true way to compare apples to apples when we all don't ride the same bikes. And since we're all individuals with different styles I can't imagine that we'd agree on the same ratios even if we all had the same bike. Oh ... me kinda bad; I failed to realize that this really is a TRS specific thread. Sorry.
I have woke up in the early morning and crunched numbers for hours and then left for work at 430 am. Me telling you ratio`s will do nothing. It really depends on the rider, then the class and lastly the bike. I know riders in my own class that have never ridden anything but first gear. Nothing wrong with that, but each obstacle can need a different gear or can be ridden in the first four. All the time with a different style.
Stu called me today(Jacks cycle ) and we cut a deal.he is boxing up a new trs one 300 tomorrow to send to michigan.
I can give you a clear cut example. My 2016 Beta 250 was driving me nuts with the gearing. 1st too low second to high. I tried from 9-11 counter shaft sprockets and 39 to 44 rear sprockets. Than one early morning I made a spread sheet of ratio`s including all the sprockets. I finally settled with 9 and 44. Sounds low yes. Well first was really low. I had been told by Vintage Pro that this is what he always ran. He liked the granny low. That was not what I wanted. I wanted a gear like the SHERCO, GAS Gas and TRS first gear. I found it with the ratios. It was second gear with a 9 and 44. Benefit was 3rd equaled the stck 2nd gear and 4th was just barely taller than the factory 3rd. Now I had 4 useable gears in a section. Worse thing you had to keep that knowledge readily available in your brain and why.
You are doing those mental calcs in a section all the while praying that the Beta wasn’t going to pop out of gear!
I only had that happen 1 time and what a result. Dee and Davids section at Roswell last year. From a clean to almost a dnf in just a few seconds. First time I ever bent a pair of fat bars.