I too am interested in all that you experienced riders are stating about gearing, but "1st", "2nd', etc. really isn't that helpful; those are just gear positions. What would be most useful - and I know it's not easy to provide - is drive ratios from the crank, through the clutch, through the transmission, and to the rear wheel. That's the only true way to compare apples to apples when we all don't ride the same bikes. And since we're all individuals with different styles I can't imagine that we'd agree on the same ratios even if we all had the same bike. Oh ... me kinda bad; I failed to realize that this really is a TRS specific thread. Sorry.