Canister Removal

Discussion in 'Ridiculous streetbikes with 6 CPUs and too much HP' started by Deviant, Aug 6, 2017.

  1. tmark1301cc

    tmark1301cc Been here awhile Supporter

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    If you're not proud of it why did you remove it???

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  2. Deviant

    Deviant aka KTM 1290SAdvR

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    Cars have them too dude.
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  3. kokos79

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    Because I needed the space in the only storage location on the bike that's actually protected by a lock.
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  4. kokos79

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    I have no idea if cars have them too. I'm saying that on my ozone hole-burning XTZ750 I can smell the fumes on a hot day.
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  5. Deviant

    Deviant aka KTM 1290SAdvR

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    They are very common on cars. Not sure when they started but "modern" cars all have them.
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  6. StuartV

    StuartV Motorcyclist Supporter

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    I'm fine with it for cars/trucks. I'm just inclined to think that even compared to passenger cars and trucks the emissions are VERY small in comparison. So, yeah, even if EVERYONE took it off their motorcycle, it would have negligible impact.

    What do y'all think would happen if all the world's governments suddenly decided to drop all (carbon, etc., but not noise) emissions requirements for motorcycles? Would we have a global smog-out in 5 or 10 years? I don't think so. I don't think we'd even notice. Like I said, properly running, well-tuned bikes don't put out that much pollution anyway. And there aren't THAT many motorcycles on the road, being ridden THAT many miles per year anyway.

    I mean look at an average custom fuel map for a bike that has had a race pipe installed and all the emissions crap removed. It's not THAT different from stock. Not that that really has anything to do with charcoal canisters, but anyway... :D

    For that matter, how much pollution is generated by the various industries that are involved in manufacturing charcoal canisters and the plumbing used to connect them on a bike? How much diesel fuel gets burned in the process of mining/refining the raw ingredients that go into the charcoal canister? And the petroleum used/refined to make the plastic box holding the charcoal and the rubber tubing? And the diesel fuel used transporting all those ingredients/components along the path from warehouse to warehouse until each one ends up on a bike?
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  7. StuartV

    StuartV Motorcyclist Supporter

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    Probably because when the engine is not running the fumes go right through the canister and out the vent...
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  8. Deviant

    Deviant aka KTM 1290SAdvR

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    Has nothing to do with "well tuned", the evap can is there to catch the evaporating gas from the tank. Not the unburnt gas post combustion. The charcoal traps the gas particles and when the engine pulls a vacuum it sucks them back in (along with outside air) to be burnt. Unless the charol is fully saturated, or the pressure is too high, the only thing coming out the vent should be clean air.

    Unburned gas and the vapors from evaporating gas are major contributors to Smog.
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  9. StuartV

    StuartV Motorcyclist Supporter

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    I was talking about pollution in general, from bikes. Not just what the charcoal can does.
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  10. kokos79

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    It's a carburated bike built in 1991 to run on leaded petrol.
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  11. StuartV

    StuartV Motorcyclist Supporter

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    OMG! You are literally KILLING the planet!!!!

    :rofl
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  12. Lewilewi

    Lewilewi Ride it like you stole it......

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    Ever thought of getting a mountain bike... Very environmentally friendly...
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  13. Lewilewi

    Lewilewi Ride it like you stole it......

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    Probably caused more pollution making the plastic, than its saved..

    Not to mention the sas parts are all getting removed and chucked in to land fill sites across the world were the plastics take hundreds of years to decompose-if they ever do..
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  14. rtpitt

    rtpitt Been here awhile

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    I'm going a step further doing my part as a responsible, environmentally conscious citizen by taking mine off and donating to a farmer for attachment to the ass of Betsy the cow where it can really do some good...
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  15. Lewilewi

    Lewilewi Ride it like you stole it......

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    This is the same canister I have....and year and model bike...

    On picking mine up brand new I had to carry my ktm tool kit in my jacket... Dealer salesman said....wait for it.....the braking systems abs is in the way !!!!!!!


    Obviously now I know diffeeant
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  16. Lewilewi

    Lewilewi Ride it like you stole it......

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    It's used to snow more when I was a kid...

    I miss making snow men...
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  17. Delnari

    Delnari Tom

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    You didn't do anything to help me want to do this any sooner. Will continue my tree hugging ways and drive my electr
    No emissions from this motorcycle. Any yes, some states consider this a motorcycle with a top speed of 45 mph. But that zero to 45 mph is really fast!

    [​IMG]
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  18. Lewilewi

    Lewilewi Ride it like you stole it......

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    This threads making progress now...

    So, how are we gonna reverse global warming...

    I want my snow back
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  19. kokos79

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    Τhe Germans seem to have found a way.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42858668

    Who would have thought they would ever do that...
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  20. Sabu

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    :jjen I couldn’t accept this bad solution by KTM and I did some tinkering.

    Following remarks too the pictures:
    - cut away the existing mounting points.
    - bracket is made of a thin aluminum sheet
    - realign the connector nipples with an hot air gun
    - shorten the unused nipple

    Please take care, the canister doesn’t block the seat lock!

    Finally, the tools are where they should be and I can compensate the emissions with some highly enjoyable touring in Black forest :-)



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