CannonTrek.ID - Big Bikes in the Idaho Backcountry

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by Cannonshot, Jul 16, 2015.

  1. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Administrator Super Moderator

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    Rocky Bar to Atlanta Part I

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    Atlanta is stuck back in the mountains. Access was restricted to rugged mountain trails until someone built a wagon road to Rocky Bar.
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    It is a very nice ride through the backcountry to Atlanta. It gets steeper and more interesting as you descend to the mile high Atlanta.
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    A tough trek to walk from Atlanta to Rocky Bar.
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    The story is that they loaded Annie up with booze and then cut her feet off. Annie later found a man to live with and bore five children. She died in the 1930s. While she lived in a cabin in Rocky Bar she sold whiskey. With mobility problems, she stashed bottles in certain locations. As someone bought a bottle, she directed the customer to the location of the hidden bottle while she oversaw things with a shotgun across her lap. He cabin is still standing in Rocky Bar.
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  2. HardWorkingDog

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    Atlanta! I helped tend bar there for about 5 minutes, about 10 years ago...an interesting place.
  3. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Administrator Super Moderator

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    Rocky Bar to Atlanta Part II

    Atlanta started up with gold and silver mining in 1864. It was named by Southerners based on a rumor of a Confederate victory over Sherman in Atlanta (which is the opposite of what actually took place).
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    There is still an active mine here. Major mining died out in the 1930s.
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    Bags of ore to be taken offsite for processing.
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    A couple of weekends could get this place back in shape.
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    There are a couple of hot springs here that we didn't visit. Some dammed up pools were dry.
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    Looks like some heavy-duty chinking and caulking.
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    Fire danger is serious business around here.
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  4. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Administrator Super Moderator

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    More on the way!

    Thanks! Glad you find it interesting.

    Thanks! This 700 has a capable rider as well!

    Oh yeah! Turned out to be a nice side trip worth the visit.

    Indeed, worth the side trip.
  5. kyhoytarcher

    kyhoytarcher Not all who wander are lost

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    Do you happen to know the current population in Atlanta? I was reading up on the town and found somewhere it was only 19??
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    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Administrator Super Moderator

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    I don't know the population, but it doesn't seem like there are very many year-round residents of these ghost towns back in the mountains. Looks like many of the structures are being used as weekend cabins.
  7. Pantah

    Pantah Jiggy Dog Fan from Scottsdale Supporter

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    Thanks again Cannonshot. I used your CDR tracks in 2011 and I combined them with docking pilot's ride on the Oregon/Pioneer Trail section of "Forever West". I think I'll try this route too, since I've never been through those parts except on an Interstate. I'll probably try it maybe late September if I can convince a buddy to ride with me. We'll be on smaller bikes.

    Druid's Sprocket: I rode a 2004 KTM 950 for some 60k miles. The one thing I learned about that bike is that after 10k miles on a chainset, you never really know how much further it will last! It could be 3k miles or 6k. That always made it a challenge to decide whether I needed to replace it before a long trip. When they start to fail, they seem to go pretty fast (like a couple/three fuel loads). I was never left stuck, but I did arrive home once with all of the chain rollers gone and the sprocket teeth looking like nubs. Looking forward to more on this RR.
  8. DruiD

    DruiD riding too fast

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    Great advice. The driveline that failed was a Sidewinder ti-moly sprocket and Smart Chain from Krause Racing. The items had less than 1000 miles on them before I started this trip. The sprocket was junk at roughly 2500 miles and the chain was gone in 6000. Of all the bike prep work I took care of before this big trip, this was the only think I 'didn't' need to address....
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    Would it be possible to set a description of each of the bikes like how each is equipped with tires, chains, sprockets and other pertinent gear? I'm always amazed at how light Dr. Zed travels.
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    Atlanta to Kirkham Hot Springs near Loman - Part I

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    Riding along the Middle Fork of the Boise River west of Atlanta.
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    Small scale gold mining equipment. Mini suction dredge.
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    Evidence of current gold mining in the video.


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    Beautiful.
  12. Cannonshot

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    Atlanta to Kirkham Hot Springs near Loman - Part II

    Road Creek Rd and NF 327 take you over a mountain to the 50" bridge. They are steep, rugged, and have a lot of erosion and water bars on them. Really good riding - maybe the most technical of the primary IDBDR route.
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    You can bump to 1080. Climbing Road Creek Road.


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    Climbing Road Creek Road.


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    Descending NF 327 toward the 50" bridge. I hear the cooling fan running after the climb.


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    Descending NF 327.


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    Banner Mine Ghost Town
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    USFS Campground at Kirkham Hot Springs near Loman.
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    Nice stream running by.
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    There are some active hot springs here. Doctor Zed scouted those out right away. There was a hotter spring in the campground and a more comfortable warm spring next to the river. The warm spring by the river was the place to be.
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    A falls there provided a nice warm water massage and rinse.
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    Not counting the 170 mile parts run, we did about 225 miles today.
  13. Cannonshot

    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Administrator Super Moderator

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    Smaller bikes would be a lot of fun on this route. Hope this report and GPS file (that I'll share later on) prove helpful to you as you plan your trip. I think I have about 850 waypoints in the GPS file. I wonder if the weather in late September would be an issue at the places of higher elevation.

    I rode a Super Tenere. The most important accessory is the bash plate. Shaft drive. Heidenau Scouts for tires. Soft bags for luggage.

    I think we share the notion that mountains and rocky rivers make for often remarkable scenery.
  14. Doctor Zed

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    I put a new Shinko 700 rear tire on and kept the older Shinko 705 that had maybe 10,000 miles on it. The rear was shot by the end of the trip, but the front showed very little wear ( I think those tires are a special cast iron version). For sprockets I just put on new stock sizes, 16 front and 45 rear along with a RMATV house brand Primary Drive chain. For luggage I used my Frunk, which is 21L and the two Givi cases which are also 21L. A couple of Wolfman Tank Panniers and Enduro tankbag were used for misc stuff. And as Cannon said, a ggod bash plate is a must. Mine is a Hepco Becker that served me well here and in Colorado.
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    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Administrator Super Moderator

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    A side trip to the Yankee Fork Dredge and Custer - Part I

    There is some very scenic road riding on this segment.
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    A nice cool morning. No one was stirring in the campground - just the barking dog tied outside a luxury RV on the other end of the campground.
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    The hot springs were a little steamy this morning.
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    This is what last night's waterfall hot springs looks like during daylight.
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    We went to this place for gas and breakfast. It is just down the road from the campground. The place didn't open until 8 AM so we hung around the parking lot for an hour having a pleasant chat with a local guy.
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    The outgoing and personable lady that ran the restaurant arrived at opening time and took our orders. For some reason all the people that came in after us (locals or motel customers) got served first. I think Druid had to wait an hour for his order which is pretty unreasonable for breakfast. Kind of disappointing that we were apparently disregarded since we were just passing through. :scratch
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    We parked our bikes at the gas pump so that we could fuel up as soon as they opened. The guy that ran the gas part of it showed up late, filled his own car first, and then instead of giving us the word that we could fill up he made some snide remark about how the RVs won't be able to get to the pumps with our bikes there. Not the best customer experience at this place. We are pretty easy going but it was a pretty unsatisfactory combination of events. Won't stop here again. Maybe they don't like motorcyclists? :dunno
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    Luckily we found a much better option nearby on our way back through this area. The Sourdough Lodge is just east of the place where we had a lousy experience.
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    They are open earlier (7 AM) and stay open later. Had we known that we wouldn't have wasted an hour waiting for the other place to open and another hour after that waiting for breakfast to be served.
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    Nice folks here.
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    We didn't have to chase someone down to get gas either. :D
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    Very scenic riding along this route.
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    I included this side trip on the route as it was a place where gold was discovered back in the day.
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    Someone found gold in this stream.
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    The best part of this spur is the view of the nearly 10,000' mountain that overlooks the lake.
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    It was a beautiful day.
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    Cleaning up after a minor rock slide.
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    More hot springs. The CCC built this bath house (Sunbeam).
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    Springs are in the river.
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    NSFW basecamp4adv Super Supporter

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    wow, your trip is something i "wanna do" and you're pics made it "must do".

    thanks for the RR.

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    Cannonshot Having a Nice Time Administrator Super Moderator

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    We really had a wonderful ride in Idaho. It is certainly a great destination for dual sport and adventure riders. Glad you are enjoying the report and pictures and hope it helps you plan a trip so you get a chance to experience it first-hand.
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    Enjoying your pics and storytelling. Thanks for posting :thumb
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    Love reading your reports. Only 3 pages in so far!
  20. Pantah

    Pantah Jiggy Dog Fan from Scottsdale Supporter

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    How many days did it take you to ride the BCDR part of this trip? I am trying to get a handle on how many days it would take us from Reno and back. Thanks!