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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Jimm Dandy, Mar 27, 2012.
Hey! My reparte` was STRONG on that one, bro. Strong!
I KNEW you'd like it here! You and Jud oughta set up a race!
I've been following off and on for sometime.
LMAO, you fruitcake "darksiders"are about as angry at the world as harley owners are when they race and lose to a sport bike
You know in the back of your little mind that using a CAR tire on a MOTORCYCLE is stupid as hell. You are just too embarassed to admit it. I bet everyone gets a good laugh when they see you wobble by riding your under-inflated car snow tire on your motorcycle
This thread attracts loony tunes like flies to shit.
And anyway,whats the deal about putting bike tires on cars?
Or an 18" front wheel on KLR's with a huge back tire mounted on it?
If guys wanna do dumb ass things they oughta just do it.
What can I say, I tried to address some questions and assumptions with answers based on factual experience.
Its not rolling along the road on car tyres that is the major problem.
Its forcing an automobile tyre onto a motorcycle rim and causing damage to either the tyre, or in worse cases- both tyre and rim in the process.
PROPER TIRE INFLATION
RUBBER manufacturers association -Tire Service Professionals
From an engineer:
Fatal Accident 1 _ Car accident when a tire bursts
That's a bursting car tyre on a car. Imagine the same incident when a car tyre explodes at the rear of a motorcycle?
Tire explosion - one dead & one injured
Captain Jenna Wilcox, 27 of the 100th Civil Engineer Squadron in the US air force, based at RAF Mildenhall, in Suffolk who has died after a tyre exploded in her sports car while she was on holiday in Scotland.
In my view there is only one question: Will my insurance company deny a claim if I'm in an accident and they find a car tire on my motorcycle?
I know the answer (I asked my insurer); do you?
people tell me that riding in blizzards is stupid as hell too, but I enjoy it (riding in blizzards, not being called stupid as hell) its the car tire that really give me the ability to do it well
and you wanna see stupid angry, picture a sportbiker that looses to a harley
Is there a specific exclusion like my policy has for participating in track days ?
I would say no, and assume there is no exclusion like mine on car tires and that yes, they would pay
however on your collision, if the rear tire is damaged in the accident, they may deny replacing the $100 tire and replace it with a stock $200 motorcycle tire instead
ya, I'd say you might make a profit in an accident with a CT, in going with the Darkside is the best thing since sliced bread idea
ADAC, a german carclub, (not just a club but world wide ackknowlegd) that runs al kinds of tests, tried the winter ct in the summer on a car and they found that the winter ct in dry and warm conditions had less grip compaired to a 4 seasons or a summer ct due to softening rubber and also a longer stopping distance.
interesting as well that bike mag, a english magazine tested road tires on a bmw1200gs and for comparison tried the continental TKC as well, surprisingly, the tkc performed with the same laptimes on a closed racetrack as the michelin pilot road, dry track that was.
i personnally did try a car tire on my car and my real life experience is that it is possible that the tire will run out of its rimbed or how you call that, so with that experience in mind i would not run a tire that is not made for a other model rim.
further running low pressure will cause more wear on the outside of the tire, with the funny effect that instant of a mt getting square your ct will get more round in california (11 curves in 318 miles)
last but not least, i don't think that a lot of ct people did read the articles linked in this tread and besides of a lot of fire in the sky and bashing on real world arguments, no arguments but real world experience are used to convince me.
post a video of your real life experience riding with your friends on some curvy roads where they have difficulty in keeping up with a vstrom while riding sportbikes.
Not me personally, but a FJR1300 canyon carving in CA:
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How many months? how many miles? how many near death incidents?
Darkside - 3 years, 43,000 miles, hit a deer last year.
Also completed 12 IBA rides on the darkside.
Dunlop Winter Sport run flat snow tire on the rear and a Shinko 700 Series rear tire on the front.
and how many car tire have you gone through in 3 yrs, 43k miles?
any handling issues that scared you?
falling off the edge of the flat earth soon?
I just put my 4th one on. I put a new one on each year just before the start of a longer ride.
Some of the longer darkside trips were - Wisconsin to Key West, FL to Prudhoe Bay, AK and back and then a trip around Lake Michigan and then a ride to Spirit Lake, Iowa.
Wisconsin to Mount Evans, Death Valley, Pikes Peak and home and then a ride to Nova Scotia and then a 1000+ mile ride around Wisconsin.
Wisconsin to Colorado and back (day ride), a trip to Minnesota and then another trip to Colorado and back a few months later.
One flat tire (nail) in Nova Scotia.
No handling issues......well.... does this count? -
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Falling off the edge ....that is possible, next destination is Inuvik, NWT, Canada.