Chain cleaning innovation: ChainBath

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  1. chid

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    Hello guys and girls,

    I'm new on ADVrider forum, I'm a user on Kawasaki Versys forum (I have a Versys 650)

    I'm a mechanical engineer in aerospace, rider and inventor.

    As a chain driven bike rider, I always hated the chain cleaning maintenance. So much so that on my first chain I did almost 0 cleaning... and had to change the chain at 19k km.
    But when I saw the difference it makes a new chain, I had to start doing it....
    I looked for best methods.... cardboard, spray, brush, mess, gunk, muck, dirty hands, dirty bike, back pain, soiled driveway, pollution, time consuming, not effective, expensive spray..... just usual...

    I wanted to have a new tool and method to make it easy, fast, mess free and less polluting (save the environment)..... big dreams ;)

    The best method I've seen is to clean the chain into a bath of solution, to make sure the cleaning is complete, not only on the outside of the links, like the normal method and tools do presently, but the inside around the O-Rings to protect them. But I didn't want to take the chain off every 500km...
    I had a few prototypes, a few fails, but in the end.... I designed a new tool and method: ChainBath.

    Here is the video I made with my 3D printed prototype:


    Here is a Before / After photo with the chain cleaned by just "walking" the bike:
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    It can be used on a stand, in your garage, or on the road.

    In the beginning I used WD40, now I use kerosene, cheap, effective and recommended by most chain manufacturers.
    The attachment I used uses the rear spool, but it could use a different method to universally attach to the swing arm.
    It has an option to have bristles inside for dirtier chains, for my street use I didn't find it necessary.

    I'm not selling anything, I'm trying to find a company to license my idea and bring it to riders that had it with the "normal" way of cleaning the chain.

    Would you like to use this new tool and method?

    Thanks!

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  2. Amphib

    Amphib A mind is like a parachute....

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    I think it looks like a good idea. I imagine you could sell a bunch of these. I personally wouldn't be interested.... I've got my system down over the years and feel it's simpler. Good luck!
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  3. chid

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    Thank you!
    I'm looking for a manufacturer to license it, I'm an inventor with ideas in different fields, but don't have many contacts in powersports.
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    ColumboNH Been here awhile

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  5. chid

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    Thanks! Good tips!
    I'll follow up!
    Any contact could be the one that brings this idea to many riders!
    Please keep them coming!

    Imagine cleaning the chain on the road with clean hands, no trace of your spray and muck on the ground (ask me how I know...). #savetheplanet
    And that's only one advantage.
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  7. chid

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    Yes, I know about the prior art, I wasn't happy with the disadvantages: only spray the chain, complex installation, only works on the straight part of the chain, difficult to use on the road... and I could add some more.

    Any motorcycle accessories manufacturer in USA?
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    You might want to consider a bicycle version too. Chains for modern bicycle drivetrains cost as much, sometimes more than moto chains and don’t last anywhere near as long. But clean vs dirty makes a big difference, as with motos.
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    You may have noticed that there is a Vendor thread.
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  10. chid

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    I'm mostly a motorcycle rider and I like to solve problems that I see.
    Not sure about bicycle chains, as they usually don't have a lower position where to create a "bath".
    We'll see in the future, thanks for pointing it out.
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  11. chid

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    Thanks for the tip MrBob, I'm going trough the Vendor thread right now. Unfortunately there are many vendors but not many manufacturers.
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    Andy Goldfine is the owner of Aerostich. He's a guy who has brought some pretty original equipment to the motorcycle market.
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  13. chid

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    Great info, thanks! This is what I'm looking for.
    Do you know how to contact him?
    Actually I have another idea for a new comfort functionality that eliminates the back pain on long rides ;)
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    It's been quite a while since I lived in Minnesota, so I lost touch with him. He used to have his contact information somewhere on the Aerostich web page, but I don't have any recent information. Good luck.
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    Andy posts as Mr. Subjective on his web page. He is also on Facebook and Linkedin. A visit to the store in Duluth is fun and a great stop on a ride around Lake Superior.
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    BEFORE you send anything to a potential partner, register the patent or at least file a copyright with the Library of Congress. Otherwise you could lose it all.
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  17. chid

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    Thanks! I'll try to contact him one way or another.
    It's more difficult with a visit since I'm up north :(
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  18. chid

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    Thanks for the advice. I already have a patent pending on this idea as I worked a little bit with other ideas and I license my Shrinkable Sofa ;)
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    I used to live with a girlfriend in Val David, so I have some idea of where you are.
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  20. chid

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    I'm browsing through the Vendors list on the forum, most of them are not manufacturers.
    I got a few answers, still nothing set.
    I'm still looking for companies interested in licensing this idea, if you have any contacts, please let me know.
    Thanks!
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