Chain grinding top chain guide

Discussion in 'Ridiculous streetbikes with 6 CPUs and too much HP' started by jstyles, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. Kevin Graehl

    Kevin Graehl Adventurer

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    Why is everyone complaining about a dry chain. It's lubbed on the other side of the orings


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  2. Doktor

    Doktor Been here awhile

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    Because you still have metal to metal contact between the chain and the sprockets. Have you ever seen any instance where metal to metal contact with ZERO lubrication on a moving part is OK?
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  3. Andy_L

    Andy_L Been here awhile

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    Train wheels on railway tracks?
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  4. Doktor

    Doktor Been here awhile

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    So so example, while they do run unlubricated, they require frequent resurfacing due to excessive wear.
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  5. jstyles

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    I have since switched lubes since this thread started. I was using chain wax, and believe it or not, that dry looking chain was well lubed, greasy to the touch just not over lubed. I typically clean and lube about every 300-500 miles so It always looks close to that.

    The new lube is an on-off road style wetter than the wax. I went a little above and beyond and I still got the funny black ring around the chain. It's not plastic though like I had first thought. It's just greasy gunk I have no Idea why its in such a clean line though.
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  6. Deviant

    Deviant aka KTM 1290SAdvR

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    My first chain guide lasted ~10,000 miles. My second one has lasted less than 1,000 and is worn worse than the first at time of replacement. Not sure if I got a "bad one" or what the issue is. Riding, lube, and maintenance have been consistent.
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  7. Bluesilver

    Bluesilver Long timer

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    Assume you not riding more aggressivee terrain now?

    If not and same roads/conditions then sounds like KTM have changed suppliers as they have done before.

    I will check tomorrow myside as I have a new spare guide lieing around.
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  8. Deviant

    Deviant aka KTM 1290SAdvR

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    Same riding, same terrain, same lube, same frequency (more or less), same chain tension. I noticed it was low a few hundred miles ago and dismissed it but saw it had started to "clean" the top of the chain now. Not impressed, going to push the dealer to replace it and blame KTM.

    I'm guessing it's a softer compound or something.
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  9. Pipeman

    Pipeman Been here awhile

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    Use a pair of digital calipers
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  10. Bluesilver

    Bluesilver Long timer

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    They feel the same,but funny enough no stamp on the guide so it could be from any supplier.

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  11. JoeyZ

    JoeyZ "I'de Like To Take That Ride Again" Might as Well

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    OK! Good enough.I would choose to not have my swing arm cut in half by the chain, as that "shiny section" on the chain links makes it's way to the rivets. But that's just me. 30 bucks, 30 minutes no mo squeaking. Piece of mind: Priceless.
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  12. gsuks

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    Once it got down to a certain point it didn't wear anymore
    My mechanic said it didn't need replacing, when I asked.
    And he's been doing road ktms
    Since the first adventure models,
    If he had said replace it would have been. I asked every 25000 when the chain was replaced


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    My chain on my 2015 didn't squeak nor does it on my 2018
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