Civil Unrest in Nicaragua

Discussion in 'Latin America' started by TeeVee, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. Sandspit

    Sandspit Been here awhile

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    OK so take this as you will, friends returned from Nica a few days ago. It was a normal surf trip to my friends condo out in San Juan Del Sur area. 1st night in Managua they heard 1 explosion but that was about it. They saw burnt out cars, houses, downed trees, old roadblocks, etc. Spent good 10 days on the coast where is was semi-normal crowds,, lots or Brazailian's (as usual), no issues with food, gas, etc. The day of return they had to skip the morning surf session and get on the road early, only 1 issue back to the airport. Forgot the town name but they were stopped by Paramilitaries, took them out of the car , questions, aggressive search BUT TOOK NOTHING, NO CASH ETC, and allowed "gringo tourist" to go...Driver was doing 100% of the talking , friends just said Soy Americano surfer/tourist heading home..."Tranquilllo" was constantly mutter to them from the driver. They made it back safely and would go again...some would have freaked out a bit with young masked men , heavily armed and on edge searching EVERYTHING...then again for some it is part of the travel you Choose to do or not. Now this is very different than motoring on your own through the country as they had a driver. Just reporting what I heard. Would plan surf trip (they need the tourist $) not sure about traversing by moto yet.

    MAYBE a local guide can set up group escort rides from N-S or S-N , the driver made it possible to get through roadblocks and re-routes back, not sure if that "service" is available.
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  2. Woody2627

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  3. TeeVee

    TeeVee His mudda was a mudda!

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    no problem with folks reporting what they see and hear, but this is the kind of thing i avoid posting because it gives people hope--perhaps falsely.

    aside from that, i have a couple of issues with this story.

    1. there is only one known roadblock by "heavily armed" paramilitaries and it is fairly close to managua. the rest are manned by unarmed civilians protecting themselves from incursion by police and paramilitaries.
    2. there are no semi-normal crowds in san juan del sur. place is practically empty with many businesses closed
    3. i have many friends in nicaragua and don't know a single one that would escort anyone through the country, let alone a group of foreigners on bikes

    but y'all can choose to believe and do what you wish
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  4. JimsBeemer

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    People posting first or near hand experiences is exactly the point of this tread.


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  5. dksd39

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  6. elron

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  7. JRWooden

    JRWooden Homeless motorcycle vagabond ... and ... loving it

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    I just received the following from the US State Dept:
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    Location: Nicaragua and its border areas



    Event: Roadblocks are present throughout Nicaragua, including near the border with Honduras, making overland travel unpredictable; road travel is even more dangerous after dark, when the likelihood of violence at roadblocks, and other crime, increases. Nicaraguan authorities may deny entry to travelers attempting to cross into Nicaragua via land. The U.S. Embassy in Managua cannot intervene in these situations.



    The Department of State issued a Level 3 Travel Advisory for Nicaragua on June 8, advising U.S. citizens to reconsider travel to Nicaragua due to crime, civil unrest, and limited healthcare availability.



    Actions to Take:

    • Reconsider travel to Nicaragua.

    • Read the Department of State’s Nicaragua Travel Advisory and the entry/exit requirements in the country information page.

    • Arrive at border crossing points well before dark if you travel to Nicaragua via land from Honduras.

    • Monitor local media for updates.

    • Enroll with the U.S. Embassy in Managua via the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive security updates.
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  8. WBuck

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    I crossed into Nicaragua from Honduras yesterday. It was a very straight forward and positive experience. The crossing at La Espina took 20 minutes on Honduras side and about an hour on the Nicaragua side. Having completed the solicitude a couple days before saved me a bunch of time. They border officials took the time to call the hostal I was staying at to check that I had a reservation. They also preformed a thorough search of my bike.
    I followed the panamerican highway south until I hit Masaya. I drove around several road blocks then a nice man recommended that I take a small detour to Grenada on CA-4 then head south. After making that route adjustment I did not encounter any more road blocks. All of the gas stations I saw were open.
    Now I am having a very nice time in San Juan del sur. The surfing is fantastic and the people are super welcoming.
    There are still difficult times ahead for Nicaragua, but I found no issues riding through as a foreigner.
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  9. TeeVee

    TeeVee His mudda was a mudda!

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    UPDATE: i went to nica for an overnight this past weekend basically to pick up family clothes (and some rum!). went from airport to house in managua with a brief stop at supermarket to pick stuff to grill. streets were very quiet/semi-deserted during the day. no locals are going out at night and nearly everything closes around 6-8 p.m.

    on sunday, a friend picked me up and we went for breakfast on the other side of town. again, streets were deserted, as was the country club where we ate.

    roadblocks inside managua are pretty much gone. outside of managua there are still some, just not sure where.

    so you can have things in PROPER PERSPECTIVE, while i was there enjoying the relative quiet in managua, the pigs and military dressed as civilians slaughtered 14 people and injured dozens. IN TWO DAYS.

    i still recommend staying out of nicaragua.
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  10. 95Monster

    95Monster Been here awhile

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    Yes, I received an email from the Captain that said the Mexico-Cuba-Colombia sailing was not feasible....due to cost and weather.

    So I am inclined to book my spot and see how things play out in Nicaragua.
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  11. TeeVee

    TeeVee His mudda was a mudda!

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    friday the 13th and the hordes of ortega funded assassins and the police are killing once again. mere blocks away from a friend's house in managua, the pigs are shooting at a church (where my friend got married). inside the church are a priest and injured kids.

    so if y'all think they would hesitate for a second to take your ass out riding a bike through, God be with you.

    read ortega's history: he is an uneducated guerilla. he takes joy in death. in response to a message from the vatican about his pigs assaulting priests and sacking a catholic church, he said, "we are protecting christianity."

    his pigs are now openly posting on social media their exploits and bragging about it.

    while the world clamors about human rights bullshit and applies monetary sanctions to individual govt functionaries, they take NO ACTION. what a sad fuckin species we are.
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  12. flei

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    I wonder if when Ortega looks into a mirror he sees Samoza?

    Very sad for my many friends in Nicaragua. Stay safe.
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    This is the plan, put my deposit down last week, and will have to play it by ear
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  14. Reaver

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  15. TeeVee

    TeeVee His mudda was a mudda!

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    saw this reported in mainstream news in nica last week. my take is it will either not happen at all or will be limited to commercial shipments. doubt it will be suited for bikes and riders
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  16. TeeVee

    TeeVee His mudda was a mudda!

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    according to my friends that stayed behind, these have "returned to almost normal." roadblocks are gone (mostly by force) and random murders by pigs and company have stopped. instead, they are going house to house all over the country and kidnapping people, who are allegedly being arrested for "terrorism." some of these folks later turn up dead in the morgue--cause of death? officially some horseshit, but their bodies show obvious signs of torture.

    i am still not moving my family back and am looking at how to get all of our belongings out. my faith in nicaragua and its peacefulness, has been shaken to the core. the level and capacity for violence against unarmed people has really fucked me up. i cannot imagine sending my wife out to walk the kids to school in a place where the government supporters burn entire families alive and shoot unarmed women in the head with shotguns. best of all, the perpetrators of these acts did them for payment of about $8.00 USD. yes, $8 USD for murdering their fellow nicaraguans. you? they'd kill for free if asked to do so.

    keep this in mind if and when you decide to cross nicaragua: the us has sanctioned a large number of nica govt officials. it has frozen the money of the nica military (nothing more than corrupt military officials making HUGE amounts of cash with their businesses, such as lumber export), and will likely pass the "nica act," a law that will require trump to veto and foreign aid or loans to nicaragua. if that happens, nica is f-u-c-k-e-d. this will in turn make the US and all gringos, very unpopular. i would not at all be surprised if whortega directs his paramilitary pigs to attack foreigners, which they will gladly do.

    you would do well to read a bit of whortega's history: he is a high school drop out and a guerilla. he is happiest and most at home directing and ordering the deaths of others.
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  17. lifestooshortadv

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    A friend and i will be doing the crossing in september sometime. We're en route from Alaska to Colombia (also selling bikes in colombia if anyone is interested).

    If anyone is heading the same way and wants to go in convoy, please feel free to get in touch and join us. Safety in numbers is always helpful. We're on a KLR and Vstrom.

    Cheers
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  18. Ohio_Danimal

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