I have a NF tent that I have used for a couple years now but I have been hankering after a bigger tent - and in particular one with a vestibule that I can sit in, in a Kermit, if the weather gets bad. I also wanted more room to be able to cook in inclement weather and for storage of bags and stuff. I have looked and looked and being 'frugal' the MSR Velo (IIRC) was out for price reasons if nothing else but that was the kind of style I was looking for. Weight and size weren't a big deal since I could use the NF tent if these were an issue. I eventually came across the Coleman Phad X3 which looked promising. http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colemancom/detail.asp?product_id=9830-392&categoryid=11070 I figured I would give it a try. The tent arrived on Monday (I ordered it from the Coleman site on Thursday of last week) and I set it up this morning for a look-see.