Colo DMV Cluster F--- or Colo isturning into CA

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by 1Gopokes1, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. 1Gopokes1

    1Gopokes1 Been here awhile Supporter

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    SO I went to the DMV here in Durango today to register a DR 650 I recently acquired and my 69 VW truck I have owned since 1995

    The MC was no issue

    The VW is still?????


    VW I have a colo title that was issued to me in 95 when I got the vehicle….I had it registered in CO for 1995-2016 when we moved to Bama. I registered it in Bama for 3 years . Bama said that because it was over 25 yrs old they would not issue a new title and I retained my original CO title


    So I give the gal my CO title and proof of CQ ins..oK… we show it was not registered for 3 years so you have to pay the property taxes for 3 years or $100. If I wasn’t driving it in CO why do I have to pay property taxes…because you owned it. OK so if I am a car collector who has 10 old cars and register one car a year and drive in on the road I have to pay property tax on the other 9 I don’t drive or pay a penalty for 9 years when I rotate cars….YES… Crazy I own a TV also that is personal property???? You going to tax that…guns next???


    SO I produce my Alabama ins card and say well it was registered in Bama for 3 years when I lived there but they did not issue me a title per Bama laws…OK that eliminates the need for the penalty but since you do not have an Alabama title ( they don’t issue for cars over 25 yrs) you will have to pay for a vin verification ($20), pay for a new title that will show you owned the car as of today 10/15/19 ….I would have to surrender my CO current title to have new one issued. But I have owned the car since 1995 I have a valid CO title to prove it?? Oh that title is no longer valid since you registered it in Bama??? Why it is a state document issued by Colo?? We researched the Bama title law on her computer and it says no title will be issued for vehicles over 25 yrs old we tried to call Bama but with time difference no one answered


    OR you could bring in your Bama registration and we would charge you $20 for vin verification and issue you a registration for it with no title. OK now I would have no title what if I wanted to sell the car… well then you would have to pay for another Vin verification to pay for a new title ??? WTF SO I can register a car with no title form another state???

    I have a colo title issued when I bought the car in 1995, I have Ins in CO,,, why can’t I register my car

    So I asked her about the collector that has 10 cars she said new state law as of July says that if you have unregistered vehicles that you have not paid property taxes on the state can come seize those vehicles for back taxes????? WTF

    WTF so all the farms that have 10 PU on the back 40 all those vehicles can be seized by the state for non payment of property taxes. The 69 mustang that I have been turning a wrench on for 7 years in my garage as part of my man therapy…they can come take it for back property taxes? where does end they going to seize my wrenches next

    Or you can register and pay for plates annually with no Ins if you sign an affidavit that you won’t drive it//// SO I can get a plate for an uninsured vehicle???

    After 2 hrs I felt like I had eaten a bag of magic mushrooms’ and jumped down the rabbit hole.

    My car that I have had for 25 years 22 of which were registered in CO..I can't get plates unless I pay for a VIn verification and for a new title, even though I have a valid CO verifying the VIN

    can anyone explain this nonsense to me
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  2. goodburbon

    goodburbon Been here awhile

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    Call me when Alabama says you owe them for failing to insure the vehicle in Alabama while you are living in Colorado.

    Louisiana did it to me.


    I still have a vehicle I registered when I got here then they wouldn’t let me register it again the next year because I had the wrong copy of the title on file.


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  3. Charleetho

    Charleetho Mr. Zoom Zoom

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    County Sherrif Offices do a free VIN verification.

    We moved away and came back . Had 3 cars, 3 motorcycles and 1 trailer to get VIN checked. I saw the sheriff's clerk a lot over that week.
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    Wudscrasher Stand-Up Philosopher Supporter

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    This is my battle with a ‘94 F150. Replace AL with CT, and same result.
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    You know if you guys would trade in those old beaters for newer vehicles none of this would be an issue. :deal








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  6. 1Gopokes1

    1Gopokes1 Been here awhile Supporter

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    goodbourbon

    CO did that to me in the past. We lived here then transferred to CA for wife's military move. When we came back I went to buy a new house Colo Springs. CO had filed taxes "for me" and filed a tax lien for income I never earned in CO. That was a Cluster F to get fixed

    Did they even look at my W-2 with a CA address for 4 years?? Oh we didn't know how to get in touch with you ….. it is on my w-2 you idiots
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  7. VxZeroKnots

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    I always thought the Durango DMV was quick, friendly, and helpful.

    Of course I don’t bombard them with hypothetical situations that don’t fit into the rules they didn’t make over twenty dollars but that’s just me.
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  8. swimmer

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    Most states that I am aware of asses some sort of fee for letting your registration lapse. Sounds like Alabama is the root of the problem in this instance. Not the first time someone has typed those words, BTW. Why the fuck wouldn't they issue a title for the vehicle? How do you transfer ownership? Is Alabama aware of the problems they are causing people who move away?
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  9. 1Gopokes1

    1Gopokes1 Been here awhile Supporter

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    my problem was not the $20, it is

    A) I wanted to keep my original title that shows I have owned the vehicle for 24 of its 50 yrs not that I acquired it 10/2019

    b) I do not think it should matter to the govt that I have 6 unregistered vehicles, If my neighbors don't care, and I do not live in a place with HOA jackoffs why should the Govt care. The registration is a road use fee..or it should be not a possession tax. It is shit like this is why you people selling CA cars that say if you register this in CA you will owe 10 yrs of back fees

    The personnel in Durango were actually very nice and helpful. As a matter of fact the clerk called me back today and said she and her boss talked to Bama and confirmed the registration in Bama counts as your title for older vehicles. That is why it showed I had 3 Bama titles. That they figured out a way to allow me to get new Colo plates and they would let me keep my original title

    The local people were great...the laws are stupid, money grabbing BS. That most people are not aware of.
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  10. Blakebird

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    There are several states that don't issue titles for vehicles of a certain age.
    I believe most states also have a 'non-op certificate' you can get for vehicles that won't be driven, to avoid registration / insurance costs.
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    Welcome back! :lol3

    and get used to it. This is the government the people of Denver will be bringing us going forward. The political will of those outside Denver metro is immaterial and inconsequential to them.


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  12. Plaka

    Plaka Brevis illi vita est

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    wanna buy another another one? bay, ex-westie, eligible for Co collector plates.
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  13. Rogue_Ryder

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    I'm thankful we can still easily plate dirt bikes here which is near impossible in most other states.

    The DMV process may seem like a headache but it's not even close to Cali bad; yet. When I moved from New Orleans to California I spent ~6 hours at the DMV getting my driver's license and registering 1 car and 1 motorcycle. I was there from 8am until 2pm, I had to deal with 4 or 5 different employees take 2 written tests (1 for car and 1 for MC endorsement), pass an eye exam and have both vehicles VIN inspected. Now that is a F'ed process.

    Be happy that over there in Durango you don't have to deal with the AirCare B.S. we do on the front range. I'm 1.5 miles from the line for having to comply vs not, and those bastards have failed me 2x for faulty gas caps and one was a brand new cap! I swear it's rigged. On old cars they make you have all the emissions crap hooked up even if you can pass without it (e.g. smog pumps & egr), it's even worse than California that if you want to daily drive a classic it needs to pass emissions regardless of the year (at least Cali caps it at 1975 and they'll referee engine swaps). The AirCare in my opinion is just a money grab. If it were not for the gas cap failures I bet the pass rate is over 95%. Not even Massachusetts (probably the 2nd most progressive socialist state behind CA) makes old cars (pre 2000 MY) pass emissions.
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  14. docwyte

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    Pretty much any car dealer will do a vin verification for free.

    Why would you expect to keep your original CO title when it was in Bama for 3 years? If bama has given you a title for it you’d have to get a different title now. So I don’t see the issue here other than having to go thru another step, which is a pita for sure
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  15. 1Gopokes1

    1Gopokes1 Been here awhile Supporter

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    because Bama never took my title... the only title I have is a CO title

    I lived in CA for 4 years I went to get a CA driver's license, they wanted to charge me hundred dollars plus, take a written and driving test. I said no thanks I had been driving for 20 plus years at that point. I walked out the lady said I was breaking the law ...I said find me I came back to CO on Vacation and renewed my license when it expired
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    My understanding is that if a vehicle is over 25 years old you can get classic or antique plates (whatever they call them) and that will make your vehicle exempt from emission testing. I could get them for my 1973 Honda but no emissions testing on bikes so no advantage to them - the disadvantage is the renewals are for two years at a time with no discount.
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  17. Olde Phart

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    My condolences, I left Taxarado for the frozen freedoms of Montana ... got a pickup, suv, two trailers and eight motorcycles all with permanent plates that last as long as I own the vehicles. Don't have to put up with this nickle and dime you to death BS on my wheels anymore.

    Good keeping the fruits of you labors to ya!
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  19. _CJ

    _CJ Retrogrouch

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    They changed the rolling 25 year exemption to 1975 and older, and classic plates are 5 year renewals.


    Not for long. The new governor and his buddies are working diligently to adopt California's emission/DMV laws. Last I heard it was held up in court, but with the way things are going, those who want a plated 2-stroke better get them grandfathered in sooner than later.


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  20. docwyte

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    Classic plates are now rolling 32 years. I have no idea how they came up with 32 as the number, but that’s what it is.

    OP, my point is that if bama has given you a title, the original one would’ve been gone anyways, so what’s the big deal about having to get a new one now?
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