Colorado West Fest; September 10-12, 2021; Registration Now Open!

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  1. CorreCaminos

    CorreCaminos Adventurer

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    That's what I'm planning on doing. I'll stay in the San Juans for two or three days after the rally and then move on to Buena Vista for a few days on the way back to Central Texas.
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  2. jwrover

    jwrover Long timer Super Supporter

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    IMPORTANT INFORMATION.... brought to you by way of theft from Jeff Slavens.

    COMING TO COLORADO TO RIDE?
    The Colorado Rocky Mountains are a popular destination for motorcycle trail riders, mountain bikers, hikers and horseback riders from around the world. The massive influx of varied users often causes undue trail damage and user conflicts that could be avoided with a little education.

    In much of the USA public land is closed to motorcycle use so in those states riders belong to clubs that own land or riders pay to ride at private riding parks. In those scenarios the rules are much different than in Colorado. In those areas if you want to cut a new trail, no problem. If you see a cool virgin hill, shred it and loud mufflers are acceptable. Especially in states east of the Mississippi River, the growing season is much longer and the rainfall greater so trail/off-trail damage heals quickly. This is not the case in Colorado and other Rocky Mountain states.

    In Colorado (and other western states) the rules of engagement, terrain and conditions are much different. All of our riding areas are on public land and managed (poorly managed) by the U.S. Forest Service (U.S.F.S.) or the Bureau of Land Management (B.L.M.) so we must follow government rules and regulations. Also, our riding season and growing season is much shorter, approximately June 15th to October 1st. Many of our trails run through Alpine tundra which is very fragile and takes decades to heal if damaged by illegal off-trail riding. Trail damage is ammunition for the tree huggers.

    Another issue is riders arriving too early in the season before the snow has completely melted and before local riders have had a chance to cut-out downfall trees. Each winter heavy snows and wind cause thousands of trees to fall and block trails. Riding off-trail to bypass these obstacles and damaging the terrain is illegal and considered a Cardinal sin to locals that maintain those trails. Each year small groups of locals pack chain saws on their back or on their dirt bike and drudge down the trails clearing the downfall. This is NOT an easy task. Transporting the chainsaw is problematic and exhausting and after the trees are cut they must be drug off the trail. Remember, this is all done at high elevations (8000' - 12,000' ) where the air is very thin and breathing is difficult. This is a very difficult and time consuming task that local volunteers do for free while costing them for travel expenses, saws, bike maintenance, hotels and food.

    Get involved, donate to the cause. Colorado is ground zero for anti-motorized trail use litigation by radical tree huggers. Their successes in Colorado set precedence for future law suits in Colorado and other states and possibly offer framework for litigation in other countries. They are well funded, very creative (file suits over allegedly endangered fish), relentless and they hate dirt bikers. We are currently contesting 3 major law suits that are very expensive to defend and more are on the horizon. Please donate to the Colorado Trails Preservation Alliance and the Colorado Off Highway Vehicle Coalition. If everyone would donate a little we would not be on such dire straits defending our right to ride.

    Plan your trip accordingly: Typically Colorado trails are rideable from July 1st till October 1st. Locals need the month of June to clear the trails and in heavy snowfall years it may take until mid-July for the trails to be cleared and for the snow drifts to melt. Please do NOT arrive early and damage the terrain by bypassing downfall or snow drifts.

    Stay the Trail: Ride over or through obstacles, not around them. If the trail is beyond your skill level, turn around and find an easier trail or go fishing. Please don't add to our trail closure troubles by destroying fragile terrain to get around fallen trees or snow drifts. Trail/terrain damage is a federal offense and if caught/ticketed you WILL have to appear in front of a federal magistrate judge and face fines and/or incarceration. The U.S.F.S. does have dirt bike riding law enforcement officers on the trail.

    Ambassador: Be an ambassador to our sport. Be friendly and courteous to other trail users. Help maintain our trails. Join/support MC clubs in the area you plan to ride. Tread lightly, don't cut switchbacks, damage alpine tundra or ride off the trail.

    Personal health/safety: Pack water, food and first aid items. Be aware of the signs of altitude sickness. Pack a SPOT tracker.

    Colorado and USFS/BLM Law Requirements:

    Sound Law: ALL ATVs, UTVs and dirt bikes must be 96dBa or less. Over 200 law enforcement officers have been trained and carry sound meters ($100 fine).

    OHV Permit stickers: Stickers ($25.25) are required on all trail vehicles, even if licensed ($75 fine). May be purchased at Colorado motorcycle dealerships. These funds, approximately $3 million annually, go to trail repair & maintenance, new trail construction, trail equipment (saws, shovels, etc.), trail law enforcement and education.

    Spark arrestors: All ATVs, UTVs and dirt bikes must have a U.S.F.S. approved spark arrestor ($125 fine).

    County and USFS Roads: These are not race tracks for trail idiots. Please obey speed limits. Most of these roads require the vehicle to be street legal (lights, plates, insurance) and the driver to be of legal driving age and licensed. Do NOT terrorize local ranchers, residents and tourist by riding beyond the speed limit.
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  3. Northwoods Snowman

    Northwoods Snowman Been here awhile

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    So I see Ouray is at about 7800ft. I'm at 1200 ft so I'm thinking a jetting change would be in order if I were to bring my 525 EXC. Looks like Ouray is in the valley, so what elevation do you guys ride up to? I've never ridden a carburetor bike that high so rejetting for elevation is new to me (I've rejetted for winter cold, but not elevation). What kind of changes are usually required? Thin air so leaner.... just a main, pilot jets too?
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  4. jwrover

    jwrover Long timer Super Supporter

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    Your rides will range between 8K ft and 12K ft from in town, to camp at 9000, up to Imogene and Engineer Passes that top 11K. Jet for 7500 and you'll be fine. We all ride 500's for that reason.
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  5. 61rover

    61rover Been here awhile

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    You can also use the fuel screw to lean up a bit if you need to. I'll be riding a 525 xc-w as well.
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  6. jwrover

    jwrover Long timer Super Supporter

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    Ouray CO Sept 10-12 2021. Hope to see you there!
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  7. jwrover

    jwrover Long timer Super Supporter

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    This would be wise. We don't want Dusty teaching you all the bad habits before you ride the San Juan's :imaposer:hide
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  8. jwrover

    jwrover Long timer Super Supporter

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    You can't get shots like this if you don't commit to the IN list bro! That top reflector is to be seen above the snow pack in winter!

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  9. jwrover

    jwrover Long timer Super Supporter

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    The Overland Golden Ticket Awaits bro!
    The Great Basin- Moab- The San Juan's- Monument Valley-Flagstaff. You'll be the envy of the whole Overland Expo!! No better season than early Fall!!

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  10. idea man

    idea man Remote Plate Spinner Supporter

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    That is a great ride. I’ve done most of it in the past but not on the same ride or one the way anywhere cool. Still working out logistics with The fam.
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  11. Newner

    Newner Buffering

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    I am In. Big John is a baller and knows how to put on a Rally. We had the best time at Steam Boat a few years ago. I will see how many more from the Tulsa area will come up.


    Cheers.
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  12. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Omnia mea mecum porto Supporter

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    Planning. Will register soon.
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  13. MountainsandRivers

    MountainsandRivers loves dirty things! Supporter

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    I know most people will be coming to experience the San Juans, because they are amazing mountains to ride or just take in, but for those of you who may be bringing smaller bikes and looking for fun riding, here are some ideas.
    If coming from the north there is a huge riding area generally referred to as the Adobes. It is between Montrose and Olathe on 550. Main parking area is called Peach Valley. Endurocross, jump track, beginner track, and hundreds of miles of trails, hillclimbs, ditches, just a fun place to ride dirt bikes.
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    Another fun area to check out is the Uncompahgre Plateau, west of Montrose. There is a good variety of dirt roads (Rimrocker goes Montrose to Moab), atv trails and singletrack. I just did a fun evening ride there today with a buddy, my 13 yr old and one of his friends. Mother Nature provided a little dust control, hero dirt, big smiles! The kids schooled us for sure.
    Lower Spring Creek trail is one of my favorites in the area.
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    Anyway, just wanted to put out some ideas to those of you who may want to dovetail a bit more riding on either end of West Fest.

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  14. LogHouseBikers

    LogHouseBikers Following the front tire... Hopefully... Supporter

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    Seriously looking at this…
    Could be solo, could be up to +3…
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  15. FilthyP

    FilthyP n00b

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    I’m going up from Norman. Are you riding or hauling?
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  16. Newner

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    Sent you a message via the Convo system or PM'ed you if you're old school.
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  17. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Omnia mea mecum porto Supporter

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    Careful. We may have to come up with some kind of waiver for people to hang out with us these days. :deal
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  18. FilthyP

    FilthyP n00b

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    I think since we’re all okies a waiver isn’t required. Kind like common law marriage. What are you guys riding? I can’t decide which bike to take. I’m leaning toward the GSA but I have a 350xcf that would be fun also.
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  19. DirtyDog

    DirtyDog Omnia mea mecum porto Supporter

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    We’re often hunting the gnar. :ricky
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  20. MountainsandRivers

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    For that, Nate Creek may be closed due to seasonal access, but you still have Alpine Trail. Lots of goodness around Rico, which you can bomb over 550 to Ophir then up 145 to the Dunton Rd. Calico and Priest loop is good, or also the loops off Hermosa creek behind Hesperus. I know I will be hitting Pole Creek/West Lost Creek one day. Not super gnarly but a few places that get your attention for sure.
    Or hit Dry Creek west of Montrose and hit the crawler routes if you want the true gnar. There is often blood and tears on those.
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