Cordless Tool Decisions...

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  1. John Smallberries

    John Smallberries Long timer Super Supporter Supporter

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    This is where my future cordless tool purchases are going.
    https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Innovations/M12
    The M12 air compressor is one of my favorite new additions. I have the M12 staple gun, stubby impact, 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" ratchets. As my Ryobi's die off, they will be replaced by Milwaukees. Having said that - the Ryobis have been very reliable. The keyless chuck on my old Dewault cordless drill failed first, which allowed me to dump one charger.
    I have posted this in the "what did you do in your garage.." thread, but I'll repeat here. While I have not had any issues with battery fires, these tools do get dropped. I built this fireproof box to store batteries and chargers, just in case.
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  2. ChopperCharles

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    Am I the only one thinking there is no ventilation and they're going to overheat charging in that box?

    Also love my Milwaukee drill. It's just as powerful as a corded drill. I used to say I'll never buy another cordless tool, after many, many miserably underpowered tools. That's just not the case anymore.

    Charles.
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  3. MrBob

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    There is a very interesting vid on Youtube listing which companies own all of the tool companies. Ego, for instance, owns a number of other tool companies.
    I couldn't keep track of whoall owned what, but I think it's safe to say that the day of an independent tool company is long over.
    For my tool purchases, I usually first look for a reconditioned tool on CPO online. If I need a tool right this minute, Lowes prices usually compete with online.
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  4. John Smallberries

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    I don't think so. First - I stole the idea from a pal that is head of battery development for one of the biggest car companies. Second - there is usually only one battery actually charging at a time, the rest are on maintainence mode. I don't notice the batteries getting excessively hot during charging. Third - I have been running it for a few weeks now and check the box for any heat - nothing yet. My pal suggests adding a vent to the outside simply to exhaust any of the nasty smoke that COULD come from a burst battery. That is on my upgrade list.
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  5. JimVonBaden

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    I'm at the point where I will not buy anymore corded hand tools. I have a couple of drills, and a circular saw and jig saw, just in case, but from now on, only cordless.
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    Honest question: Why do you say that?

    I have a hodgepodge of Hitachi, some HF and DeWalt cordless tools. My first DeWalt was the 12V Max 1/4" brushless impact driver with 2AH batteries and I really like it, way more control for small fasteners than the 20V HF one I have. I was considering getting the 1/2" Atomic drill kit as I found a deal at my local Lowe's for $119 with two 1.5AH batteries.
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    ydarg Miscreant

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    This is the 1/4” impact I have. Very impressed with the power for its size and light weight.

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    I used one of those building my garage addition. Powerful little guy. Better than my normally fine Ryobi!
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  9. jb882

    jb882 13HP of fury.

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    Same here, i still have some corded stuff like table saw, mitre etc but these days things like my circular saw and sawz all stay in the cases since the cordless ones i own now are just as good.

    The 60v Dewalt stuff I own is just awesome in my opinion.

    The only other things i still feel i need a cord for are sanders and grinders. For those uses batteries just don't last long enough. I do own a cordless grinder and also a palm sander and they are great for quick things but anything over like 15 min use i want a cord.
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  10. ydarg

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    I did mean the 'Depot talking about the Atomic drill, sorry for the confusion. Had Lowe's on the brain because I bought the impact driver there.

    So the only real issue is/was the size and the fact that it doesn't have the 3 speeds like the 12V Max and Xtreme do? Good to know. That impact driver was my first black and yellow tool, and I'm super impressed so at this point I think I'm gonna check out the Atomic and the Xtreme drills.
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  11. ChopperCharles

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    I’ve had exclusively the Milwaukee m18 stuff so far. Is the 12v stuff just as good? Specifically the 12v drill with all the cool attachments, offsets, angles, and stuff. I could have used that on my last project. Also the dremel tool. I really need a new dremel, and I’m considering a wall-mounted unit this time. But if the Milwaukee is good and powerful and resistant to burning up (or has a good warranty) I would consider it too.

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    For 90% of homeowner type stuff, the M12 is just as good. Nearly my entire Milwaukee kit is M12, and I've never longed for more power.
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  13. Ge-Mini-gun

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    When we remodeled our house, about ¾ of it anyway, I started with a set of Craftsman 19v drills and 4 batteries…one of the drills and one battery didn’t make it through the master bath. At the time Lowes had a sale on a Dewalt drill/driver combo that I purchased, couple weekends later the other Craftsman went tits up, so back to Lowes for a driver. Long story short I’ve been really happy with them and I’ve abused the crap out of them…hung drywall, mixed drywall mud, mortar, grout, drilled holes and Lord knows what else. Like the OP I’m a DIY’er and not pro…I just wanted something that would last. I’ve since gotten an oscillating sander/cutting tool and 6-1/2” circular saw, keep wanting to get the reciprocating saw but I have Milwaukee corded beast of a saw that I’ll probably never get rid of, so…
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    Not just yet Mr.Bob,Makita,Hilti,Bosch ,Fien still independent
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    TTI has the above brands, a global conglomerate based out of Hong Kong.

    The marriage of the different brands however is far from equal...makes ones head spin.
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    I really think it comes down to personal preference, all my hand held power tools I've bought in the last few years have been M18 cordless. I did buy a sander that is plug in as I couldnt justify the extra money for cordless and just didnt feel balanced compared to what I got.

    The stuff I'm really not sold on is the cordless miter and table saws, first is the price is so much more and just dont think they can bring the power that corded have.
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    I don’t own one but I have used the DEWALT cordless mitre that a friend owns. It’s the 12” flex volt unit that uses 2 60v batteries. It runs off cord or cordless and it’s every bit at strong at my older plug in 12” saw and the batteries last a lot longer than I expected they would. He loves it because of the flexibility it gives him on the job site. There are times he does not have easy access to power and it enables him to still be able to work. He loves it for places like small camps that are on islands and such and new homes that have no power run yet. it enables him to carry a lot smaller generator since he only needs to charge batteries instead of running 15amp tools. These days he only brings a small 2000w Honda that is whisper quiet and sips fuel. He likes the saw so much his old plug in only one got sold off. He owns the table saw too but I have never used that.

    He also owns the 7 1/4” 20v which he uses a lot for finish work.
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  18. 1greenmachine

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    That's where Dewalt is so much better than milwaukee as they have the dual power setup thou that setup adds a lot to the price tag to and more than I can justify.

    For me as I have all Milwaukee stuff just the 12" bare tool saw is like $700 and no stand, I bought this for $450 on black friday
    https://www.homedepot.com/s/dewalt%20compound%20miter%20saw?searchtype=suggest&NCNI-5
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  20. jb882

    jb882 13HP of fury.

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    Same here, way too much $$ for my uses. For my buddy who takes on a lot of jobs at remote sites with no power its worth it 100%.


    I do own a couple 60v items, a 7 1/4 circ saw and recip saw. When i bought the circ saw i was looking at the 20v one to replace my old dead 18v 6 1/2" and the 60v was on sale for the same money with 2 batteries on Amazon. I got it and have not taken my plug in Dewalt circ saw out of the case since. Its literally been two years since the last time i used it. The 60v one is that good, its every bit as strong at the plug in one. Battery is impressive too, i did a deck with it when i first got it and cut 40 2x12 pt joists, all the posts and trimmed the decking on one charge.
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