CPAP. Is my ADV life over? NO!!!!

Discussion in 'Camping Toys' started by NachoRoto, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. ejm4

    ejm4 Been here awhile Supporter

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    Yes, mine has the wifi monitor too. They told me that if I do not use the wifi option, I will need to use a SD card to store the data and then bring the card to them. Supposedly the insurance company kind of advances them the money for the machine and if the data shows them I am not using it then the insurance company does not pay for it... Just seems odd that I must purchase from one of the vendors...
  2. ryder1

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    My co pay paid for mine. I think my insurance paid for $5 of it or something like that.
  3. FredRydr

    FredRydr Danger: Keep Back 300 Ft.

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    The prior two posts are by PA residents. Health insurance companies are prohibited under PA law to require you to purchase prescriptions from specified vendors.

    ejm4, are you using Cresscare? They are a PITA, and yet, I have been unable to find a more convenient source that's local, because I can pick up or go in and ask pointed questions (more often than not, I'm told the person who would know isn't available). That outfit will keep sending computer-generated periodic email and phone messages suggesting it's time to replace perfectly good equipment. Make sure you know your health insurance terms before you buy through their online page, or you could get a surprise bill. I learned to always order by phone, and only order what actually needs to be replaced for wear or hygiene. Do a bit of research to satisfy yourself on that score. I clean my equipment regularly, and don't need to throw away durable goods as often as CressCare wishes I would.
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  4. ejm4

    ejm4 Been here awhile Supporter

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    American Home Medical Supply is my supplier.
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    PullingG's What?

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    I went to a doctor last year and they kept pushing for a new CPAP and forcing one or two models. I said I wanted to research the devices (I still have an S8 which works fine) and they seemed a PO'd and surprised and essentially said I did not have a choice of vendors and devices. I did not phone back. I have to say that, over the years, I have had found it hard to find a Sleep doctor/practice that are good. I had one and then he brought on two other doctors who were not nearly as good and I never got to see him. They started requiring I buy masks, tubes and filters from them. They never had items in stock and would not ship. Given they were a 45 minute ride each way - I dropped them too.

    I just want to order the device I want and order supplies online but they all seem somehow hooked to selling devices and supplies themselves.
  6. Bigbob1

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    Once you have a copy of your prescription you can purchase your supply's and machines from anywhere you choose. Your insurance provider may want you to use certain suppliers but if you are paying your free to order from anyplace.
    I have been dealing with Cpap.com and Amazon.
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  7. ejm4

    ejm4 Been here awhile Supporter

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    I have yet to meet my sleep doctor in person or speak to them on the phone. My primary care had me do an at home test. The nurse called back and said I needed a sleep study at their facility. I pushed back thru about two phones and then they said if I didn't come in for the test, no machine. I then went in for the test, the evening of the test while hooking me up they gave me a list of a couple suppliers and was instructed to choose one. Two weeks after the test I got a call from the supply store asking me to set up an appt to get the machine.

    The whole things just seems like a way to rip off my insurance company.
  8. Valker

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    AS BigBob1 said, CPAP.com is good to work with. I can get a prescription for anything I need BUT, they have a legal method to get it to you without any prescription.
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    Bingo!

    I've had long discussions with my sleep doctor about the rip-off of DME providers. He gives me a prescription without hesitation to use at CPAP.com. Supplies are cheap enough there I don't bother to request reimbursement from my insurance company.
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  10. Bigbob1

    Bigbob1 Rain Rider Supporter

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    I agree.
    I was put on a cpap when I was going thru cancer treatment. My sleep doctor for a 5 minute monthly appointment was charging more than either my primary care or oncologist. Some months he charged more than both of my other Doctors combined. I had double insurance coverage and the sleep doc milked it for every penny. After two years of chemo I was nearing lifetime limits for coverage. I had a talk with the sleep doc and told him I think he was a crook and left. That was 5 years ago.
  11. ejm4

    ejm4 Been here awhile Supporter

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    I would prefer to try dif
    My only gripe is I would prefer to use any vendor at any time. I would like to try some other types of masks, but I am required to go thru American Home Medical at this point. Maybe as another inmate has done, I will give the cpapshop.com a try and see how that works without have a script.
  12. FredRydr

    FredRydr Danger: Keep Back 300 Ft.

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    Insist on receiving your script. I did so, and used it to buy a second machine for moto-camping from CPAP.com when the tiny Transcend II came out.
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  13. Oldebonz

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    As a Dentist, there are other options,(and CPAP user) Aveo mouthpiece,mandibular advance appliances can work for a decent night’s sleep.CPAP still better but these can get you by. The Aveo is in my survival pack.Haven’t tried the mini CPAP,rechargeable battery,solar ,Nicely packable.
  14. ejm4

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    Do you notice any difference with the mini unit? I would like to purchase one as well for travel purposes. They currently have me using a Resmed AirSense 10.
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    I have two, a BiPAP and CPAP that I use for travel. I just returned from Mexico with my portable clap. I also use it for camping with a battery, get about 8 hours use before the
    battery needs a recharge. Been using for 17 years, won't sleep without one.
  16. Peach State Paradise

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    Here, here to the almighty CPAP!! I too used to sleep all night but would wake up feeling much worse than when I first went to bed. So I was prescribed a CPAP machine and my sleep/whole life improves DRAMATICALLY! It’s simply AMAZING what a good nights sleep can do for you. Even though I no longer have sleep apnea, I still feel like I sleep better while I’m using my CPAP machine.
    Thanks for the information about how to power one whenever camping out.
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  17. dweeb

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    A lot of comments here about losing weight, and counter comments that it's not always weight. Both are right, but the vast majority of apnea problems are weight, fitness, or structural.
    I used to snore so bad people in the next hotel room would be pounding on the wall about it.
    First doctor to look at it said, lose 40 lb. and then come back and see me (this was 20 years ago.) I started running, lost 40 lb., started competing in triathlons, and saw improvement, but I still snored loud enough to wake the dead, and still wasn't getting as good sleep as I wanted. 10 years ago, went to an ENT about an ear injury - during his initial exam, he took one look up my nose and was shocked that I could breath at all through one of my nostrils. An injury in the 8th grade had caused the worst deviated septum he'd seen in his career. 2 hours of surgery and 2 weeks with plastic stents shoved 1.5 inches up my nose, and suddenly, wife was waking up in the middle of the night thinking I was dead because it was so quiet.
    Almost all apnea cases that aren't weight/fitness related are structural, and can be corrected by surgery, but for most doctors, the CPAP is their hammer and everything looks like a nail. The CPAP industry has worked very hard offering seminars and the like to make sure most doctors are programmed to think their devices are the only solution. It's sort of a racket, they've set things up so most health insurers won't buy you a CPAP, they'll only lease you one - continuous recurring revenue is what every company wants. There are also mouthpieces, similar to the ones that prevent tooth grinding while sleeping, that keep the jaw positioned to prevent apnea - they fit in your pocket and cost less than $50.

    If a doctor tells you you need a CPAP, and won't even discuss alternatives, get a second, third, or fourth opinion, and at least one should be from an ENT or head and neck specialist with a surgical practice. Physicians are humans, with all the biases that entails. Internists are often unaware of, or even biased against, surgical solutions. It's just a different mindset. After a 50 year hospital career in nursing, my mother always said you can predict which way a future physician's career will go when they're in puberty - future internists slather on the Clearasil, and future surgeons pop their zits. Internists lean toward continuous lifelong dependency on a drug or a device; surgeons want to get in there, fix the problem, and be done with it - these methodological preferences color every decision they make.

    It works both ways - we have two Labrador retrievers who tore their ACL's 5 years apart. First one, every vet said she needed surgery to re-engineer the knee. Second one, did more research, got more opinions, turns out the company that made the stainless steel plate used in the surgery had been going around the country offering continuing ed sessions for vets teaching them the procedure, which they told them was the ONLY solution, after which they were authorized to purchase the appliance and could start raking in $3500 per operation. Found a huge body of research that, with six months of limited activity and a brace, scar tissue would stabilize the joint on its own. They're now both 13 and the one who didn't have the surgery is still more athletic than the one that did.
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  18. FredRydr

    FredRydr Danger: Keep Back 300 Ft.

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    It was the first mini CPAP. I bought it in 2012, and there have been substantial improvements to it and competing compact models since then. My biggest complaint is the loud whoosh through the hose. Small units seem to be more susceptible to creating noise. My second complaint is I wish I bought the larger battery; the small battery doesn't make it through the night anymore. Other than that, it does the job. But I much prefer my bedside ResMed S9 with humidifier that's 8 or 9 years-old.

    This thread is too long to absorb everything, but if I was to buy another CPAP unit for moto-camping, I would probably opt for a machine that runs directly off 12 volts (e.g., DeVilbiss) rather than insist on being miniature, since you can forgo all the expense, space and weight of bricks, transformers and inverters.
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  19. NCJ

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    Same thing here; my take is there are kickbacks involved at whatever level.
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  20. Baroquenride

    Baroquenride Everyone dies, but not everyone truly lives.

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