I also believe it's a cultural difference. Although I lived in the USA for 22 years, I grew up in the UK. My obsession with science started at an early age, probably because my relatives were all engineers. There are actually 2 CE standards being talked about here: CE in the USA is = Caveat Emptor CE in the EU is = Certification European OK, that was lame attempt at a joke (I stole it). Why do people think I hate Wayne? I liked him enough to buy a kevlar mesh jacket in 2006. Back then I didn't know shit about CE except it meant Caveat Emptor. So, I'd buy again if his gear ever is approved by any independent tests. I actually need a summer suit. My argument seemed utterly simple and unassailable. How wrong I was. Also, I could technically afford a brand new suit right now from Motoport - I have the money in the bank - but I believe I'm a savvy buyer who looks for the best value I can find. That might involve buying used stuff - Teknic leathers. Or stuff that does the trick without extra frills - Aldi. Even when I had a high-paying job in California, I bought used Japanese bikes and cars rather than American or European brand-new bikes and cars. So, yeah, I'm cheap. Guilty as charged. However, it's very upsetting to see customers who are less than thrilled with Motoport being put down for not toeing the line, by Motoport themselves and some of their customers. I also complain about any product that I think could be improved or is lacking somehow. I've contacted several companies recently: Bull-it and Klim. One difference is, they were very polite and accommodating.