Created and Using Tracks

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by Easy Ed, Oct 17, 2020.

  1. Easy Ed

    Easy Ed Adventurer

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    I am beginning to post tracks for unpaved rides and roads to the New England Riders website. I am not very experienced with tracks and would appreciate some guidance.

    Does anyone know the track point limitations for different GPSes and Apps?

    I think that the following is true:
    GPS, maximum track points
    Zumo XT, 10,000
    Zumo 595, 15,000
    Montana, 10,000

    I also wonder if anyone has any tricks to best follow tracks on their device? Track color? Track length? Can you vary track width & visibility?
    Thank you very much.
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  2. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    My Garmin Montana and many other Garmin models have the ability to Navigate a track. When you do this the unit draws the track as a bright wide magenta line that is much easier to see than the normally drawn tracks.

    It also has the feature where you can see the distance to the end of the track in the dashboard. I usually make my tracks end at a gas stop. So this is very useful.
    You can also see a few other metrics, but I have not found them as useful.

    Otherwise I find that best track color depends on the unit and the terrain you are riding in. I normally prefer blue, this is a bad choice in an area with a lot of water.

    Same with using green in areas with green shaded national forests. On my old Garmin 60 cyan showed up well, but not so well on the Montana.

    Red sometimes works unless you are riding in an area with a lot of paved roads that are shown in red in the mapset you are using.
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  3. Easy Ed

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    Do people try to keep tracks short or is a large ride track OK? For example, would folks split the Vermont Puppy Dog Route into many tracks or would 2 parts be sufficient? Thank You!
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  4. ramz

    ramz Professional Trail Rider Supporter

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    You had to ask......the list is long.

    Devices: Alpha, Astro, Colorado, Dakota, [D2 Bravo, fenix 3, quatix 3, tactix Bravo], [D2, fenix, fenix 2, quatix, tactix], epix, eTrex - many models, fenix 5 series, GPSmap, Montana, Monterra, Oregon, Rino

    Alpha 100
    2,000 GPX files
    4,000 waypoints
    12,000 geocaches
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    500 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Approximately 3,500 mapping segments
    *Archive tracks do not count against GPX file limit; 1 archive track per gpx file.

    Astro 320
    2,000 GPX files
    2,000 waypoints
    5,000 geocaches
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Approximately 3,000 mapping segments
    *Archive tracks do not count against GPX file limit; 1 archive track per gpx file.

    Colorado 300/400
    200 GPX files
    1,000 waypoints
    2,000 geocaches
    50 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    20 archive tracks (archive tracks can only be accessed via computer)
    10,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Mapping segments vary by model:
    Colorado 300: approximately 4,000
    Colorado 400c, 400i, 400t: approximately 3,500 (due to internal mapping)
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.

    Dakota 10/20
    2,000 GPX files
    1,000 waypoints
    2,000 geocaches
    50 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks*
    2,000 archive tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Approximately 4,000 mapping segments
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.
    *Archive tracks do not count against GPX file limit; 1 archive track per gpx file.

    D2 Bravo, fenix 3, quatix 3, tactix Bravo
    1,000 waypoints
    50 routes, 250 points per route
    100 saved tracks
    10,000 points per track
    unlimited points per fit file (limited only by storage space available on device)
    Ability to add maps unsupported
    Connect IQ supported (watch faces, data fields, widgets and apps);
    Connect IQ apps may fill available internal memory before file limitations are met

    D2, fenix, fenix 2, quatix, tactix
    500 GPX files
    1,000 waypoints
    2,000 geocaches
    50 routes, 250 points per route
    100 saved tracks
    10,000 points per track
    unlimited points per fit file (limited only by storage space available on device)**
    Ability to add maps unsupported

    epix
    1,000 waypoints
    50 routes, 250 points per route
    100 saved tracks
    10,000 points per track
    unlimited points per fit file (limited only by storage space available on device)
    Connect IQ supported (watch faces, data fields, widgets and apps); Connect IQ apps may fill available internal memory before file limitations are met
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Mapping segments vary by model:
    Approximately 4000 on base model
    Approximately 3500 on unit preloaded with Topo US 100K maps

    eTrex 10
    500 GPX files
    1,000 waypoints
    2,000 geocaches
    50 routes, 250 points per route
    100 saved tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    Ability to add maps unsupported
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.
    *The eTrex 10 does not have the option to archive tracks

    eTrex 20/30/20x/30x/22x/32x
    2,000 GPX files
    2,000 waypoints
    5,000 geocaches
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks
    10,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Approximately 3,000 mapping segments
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.

    eTrex Touch
    2,000 GPX files
    4,000 waypoints
    No limit on geocaches (outside of max number of GPX files supported and memory available)
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks
    10,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Mapping segments vary by model:
    eTrex Touch 25/35: approximately 4,000
    eTrex Touch 35t: approximately 3,500 (due to internal mapping)
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.

    fenix 5 series
    1,000 waypoints
    50 routes, 250 points per route
    100 saved tracks
    10,000 points per track
    Unlimited points per fit file (limited only by storage space available on device)
    Connect IQ supported (watch faces, data fields, widgets and apps); Connect IQ apps may fill available internal memory before file limitations are met
    5x: 500 custom map tiles

    GPSmap 62/78
    2,000 GPX files
    2,000 waypoints
    5,000 geocaches
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Approximately 3,000 mapping segments
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.
    *Archive tracks do not count against GPX file limit; 1 archive track per gpx file.

    GPSMAP 64 Series
    2,000 GPX files
    5,000 waypoints
    No limit on geocaches (outside of max number of GPX files supported and memory available)
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archived tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    500 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Approximately 3,000 mapping segments
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.
    *Archive tracks do not count against GPX file limit; 1 archive track per gpx file.

    GPSMAP 66 Series
    2,000 GPX files
    10,000 waypoints
    Unlimited geocaches (depending on the number of gpx files & general memory)
    250 routes, 250 points per route
    2,000 archived tracks
    250 saved GPX tracks
    300 saved FIT activities
    20,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    15,000 mapping segments
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.

    Montana 6xx
    2,000 GPX files
    4,000 waypoints
    12,000 geocaches
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    500 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Mapping segments vary by model:
    Montana 600, 650: approximately 4,000
    Montana 600t Camo, 650t: approximately 3,500 (due to internal mapping)
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.
    *Archive tracks do not count against GPX file limit; 1 archive track per gpx file.

    Montana 7xx
    2,000 GPX files
    10,000 waypoints
    No limit on geocaches (outside of max number of GPX files supported and memory available)
    250 routes, 250 points per route, 50 points for auto routing
    250 saved tracks
    300 saved FIT activities
    2,000 archive tracks*
    20,000 points per track
    500 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    15,000 Mapping segments
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.
    *Archive tracks do not count against the GPX file limit; 1 archive track per GPX file.

    Monterra
    2,000 GPX files
    4,000 waypoints
    12,000 geocaches
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    200 archived tracks
    10,000 points per track
    500 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    4,000 mapping segments
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.

    Oregon 200/300/400
    200 GPX files
    1,000 waypoints
    2,000 geocaches
    50 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    20 archive tracks (archive tracks can only be accessed via computer)
    10,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Mapping segments vary by model:
    Oregon 200, 300: approximately 4,000
    Oregon 400c, 400i, 400t: approximately 3,500 (due to internal mapping)
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.

    Oregon 450t/550t
    2,000 GPX files
    2,000 waypoints
    5,000 geocaches
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Mapping segments vary by model:
    Oregon 450, 550: approximately 4,000
    Oregon 450t, 550t: approximately 3,500 (due to internal mapping)
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.
    *Archive tracks do not count against GPX file limit; 1 archive track per gpx file.

    Oregon 600/650
    2,000 GPX files
    4,000 waypoints
    4 Million geocaches***
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    500 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Mapping segments vary by model:
    Oregon 600, 650: approximately 4,000
    Oregon 600t, 650t: approximately 3,500 (due to internal mapping)
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.
    *Archive tracks do not count against GPX file limit; 1 archive track per gpx file.

    Oregon 700/750
    2,000 GPX files
    10,000 waypoints
    unlimited geocaches (depending on the number of gpx files & general memory)
    250 routes, 250 points per route
    250 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks
    20,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    15,000 mapping segments
    Each GPX file can contain a mixture of waypoints, geocaches, routes and tracks. If the GPX file containing a waypoint or geocache is deleted, the waypoint will no longer be available on device.
    When utilizing routes, only 50 points can be used for on road navigation.

    Rino 600 Series
    2,000 GPX files
    2,000 waypoints
    5,000 geocaches
    200 routes, 250 points per route
    200 saved tracks
    2,000 archive tracks*
    10,000 points per track
    100 custom map tiles
    50 contacts with 2,000 track points each
    250 BirdsEye Imagery files
    Approximately 3,000 mapping segments
    *Archive tracks do not count against GPX file limit; 1 archive track per gpx file.
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  5. Easy Ed

    Easy Ed Adventurer

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    Thank you. That is exactly what I am looking for. It appears as if most devices can handle tracks with 10,000 points. Is there any advantage to breaking a 9,000 point track into multiple parts?
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  6. wbbnm

    wbbnm Long timer

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    I can only speak for myself and the small groups I ride with. For long trips I usually create two primary tracks per day. These correspond to gas stops and are typically 100-120 miles. Some guys I ride with immediately combine the two into one for the entire day.

    I also have some shorter tracks associated with a ride for alternate routes and side trips.

    I really wouldn't care if I got one long or many short tracks from someone. I would appreciate them sharing the info and would just split or combine them to fit my needs.

    In an extreme case one guy I got tracks from recorded tracks for a "single-track" version of the Continental Divide Ride. He create a new track every time the road difficulty changed. He ended up with over 800 tracks.
    This was useful breakdown for assessing the difficulty of the ride. But required a lot of track combining before one could load anything useful onto a GPS unit.
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  7. Easy Ed

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    Thank you kindly for taking the time to reply.
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