CRF300L and CRF300L Rally

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Lapchik, Nov 10, 2020.

  1. skywalker714

    skywalker714 Been here awhile Supporter

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    Started with a stock 19 450X. Made my own Fairing and dual sport Kit, adds about 8 lbs. it’s titled and legal, I am running 49 rear sprocket and getting 56 mpg. I have a few more updates to add this winter. I also have a vet moto kit for this bike. 4E675469-5030-41A4-ABDD-DA87E61B04B4.jpeg

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  2. Glenn247

    Glenn247 Long timer Supporter

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    Cool build; can you let me know which exhaust that is?
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  3. Lapchik

    Lapchik Tinkeritis posterboy

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    Plus shipping them to USA, plus taxes and import fees, plus destination fee, plus Honda overhead related to advertising, dealership training, parts importing, etc. . . . . . It'll be more like $5500-6000 [or more] I would bet. A high enough cost to make people consider the 250 instead, but considerably less than a 450RL. A 2020 250L is $5199 msrp [+ $380 destination fee]. The 450RL is $9999 msrp [+ $380 destination fee].

    Honda USA lists the......
    250L for 2019/2020
    250 Rally 2019/2020
    450RL *updated* 2020/2021
    450L 2020

    I think the 450L got the "R" added to denote the race bike based engine and related service intervals.

    No 2021 250L/Rally to keep people buying them and not kill the market because people will just wait for the 300? Maybe?

    Maybe they will pull a Kawasaki KLR650 and not make the model available for the current/next model year, and try to sell off old stock before introducing the new stuff.
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  4. WalterMitty2

    WalterMitty2 Been here awhile

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    Yup, I meant costs for "them" meaning the folks in Thailand, and agree with your math for us. If they keep the bump under $500 in the USA, IMHO it's a good value when you consider the engine/HP bump, slipper clutch, LEDs, etc.
    I could see no 2021s so they can clear out current inventory, and allow them to ramp up production on the new bike...maybe even catch a few bugs and fix before hitting the USA. I want one now!!! :happay
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  5. Lapchik

    Lapchik Tinkeritis posterboy

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    Even with this bike on the VERY distant horizon, I still like my 250L and won't be upgrading. Until I blow the engine up. Again.

    :loco[I do have a turbo sitting on the shelf....and an eye out for 500 twin engines.....] :loco
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  6. computer_freak

    computer_freak Been here awhile

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    I have no reason to buy this motorcycle but I am still very excited about this!
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  7. wisbadger

    wisbadger Adventurer

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    Is the base CRF250L different in Thailand?
    Looking at the specs posted for example:
    Ground Clearance for 250L is 211mm vs 244mm for the 300L. >> US Honda website specs 10.0" ground clearance (254mm) for the 2020 250L??
    Seat height for 250L is 830mm vs 831mm for the 300L. >>US Honda website specs 34.4" Seat height (873mm) for the 2020 250L??

    In any event, I'll probably be interested in this bike depending on price.
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  8. GonzoDirtso

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    I am full of hope (but hopefully not too much hope) that this is the upgrade I've been looking for my XT250.
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  9. MaxFuel

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  10. dankatz

    dankatz Been here awhile

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    I think the models in Thailand on their website are the low versions which sell quite a bit. I suspect we will get the regular version which will have a seat height of about 34.5". I got the low version's side stand when I put Warp 9 17" wheels on my CRF250L. It is about 1-2 cm too short in my opinion as the bike leans quite a bit, so I suspect a low CRF250L in Thailand is even lower than my converted "CRF250M". I am very excited about all the changes: better motor, 11 lbs less weight, better instrument panel (I have a 2014 with no tach), and LED's all around
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  11. MaxFuel

    MaxFuel Been here awhile

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    Question is...is it worth 11 pounds and 8 horsepower to upgrade from a 250L ?
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  12. dankatz

    dankatz Been here awhile

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    Depends on how much you have invested in the 250L and how much it would cost for you to upgrade. The typical answer is no.
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  13. WalterMitty2

    WalterMitty2 Been here awhile

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    Depends. But a little context might be needed. This increased HP we are talking about isn't on a Ducati Panigale, V4 R going from 226hp to 234hp. Here its about 22hp going to 31hp, or about a 36% increase in HP. In addition to this, you're getting a lot of other improvements, all which have not added weight.

    To me, I would have been excited about all the changes if it added only 11 pounds, the fact that it actually lost weight is like icing on the cake, and I'm talking about a HUGE...no one is around to see or judge, you're cutting yourself, size slice!!!
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  14. GonzoDirtso

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    I'm super excited about this!
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  15. Johnny919

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    It's nice to see honda finally made some improvements. Still waiting to see if it will be an upgrade over my wr250r.
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  16. breakm

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    If the seat height is a bit higher, with all known improvements and nothing being worse then before, as a 2016 owner I would upgrade to this one.
    Specially for the Rally which now has a point with having 31hp engine and thus can do occasional relaxed highway duty for say doing one way of adventure ride in a short time. It would mean 1 day rides can have more distance now and 1 or 0 refuellings. But the regular L is by this data also significantly better if most rides are local and off-road and you dont want to do more then 1 maintenance job per year, just that in my case, I'd need bit of seat height so hoping these are lowered version.

    Sum it up, people wanted:
    - More power
    - Less weight
    - Better suspension


    Since we dont live in a perfect pink world, we got 2 of the 3 packed with often aftermarket added LEDs, tachos and gear indicators (personally dont care) and in a nicer graphic package, and what we didnt get is easiest to upgrade. Be happy.
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  17. skywalker714

    skywalker714 Been here awhile Supporter

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    Stock exhaust, I wanted the X over the L because it runs much better stock
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  18. valvecrusher

    valvecrusher tractus pro pensio™

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    Hey Honda.....

    Give me an NX 300, or a CB300x.... I need something without the parachute front fender for my interstate highway travels..
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  19. minkyhead

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    looks very well produced ...and then right at the end in the pictures the 250l badge is clearly still on
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    confused
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  20. hookeniggy

    hookeniggy Good at getting lost

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    Just came from my dealership (here in Thailand) they would take my current 2018 250 Rally as a trade in on a new 300 they have one in a week or so...
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