CSC City Slicker

Discussion in 'Electric Motorcycles' started by gatling, Jun 5, 2018.

  1. MJSfoto1956

    MJSfoto1956 Been here awhile

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  2. millican

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    What color is the backlight of the City Slicker's instrument cluster? I've noticed quite a few electric machines have a very bright blue dash at night. I find that pretty obnoxious as it seems to screw around with night vision. There are plenty of images online of the cluster in the daylight, but I didn't see any in the dark.
  3. millican

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    I finally found a video that answered my question. It looks like the display isn't backlit at all, but just white or gray illuminated text and symbols. I've got a 10-year anniversary gift to pick up for my wife soon, and then I'll most likely be ordering one of these guys.
  4. topaz024

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    City Slicker and Wiz are on black friday sale for 2195! (300 off) plus another 200 off if you pick up at the store :O
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  5. ADVDucs33

    ADVDucs33 Been here awhile

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    Both are a great buy, if I was getting one. My TT250 from them has been a good horse.
  6. Dsharon

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    So I just ran our controller and battery pack upto CSC yesterday for the reflashes. Put it back in the bike this morning and at key on, the pack reads 0%. It was full prior to the flash. Cell voltage was showing ~ 4780mV on all 17 cells at the time of the flash. Anyone else experience this with the new software? Can't call them today or tomorrow obviously.
  7. longhaul747

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    Hmm....first time I have heard of this on a fixed setup. Its possible maybe the battery randomly went to sleep during or before the reflash and just needs to be woken up again? Try plugging the charger in and letting it charge to 100% and see if it happens again.

    My City Slicker has been stored since mid October because of weather, vacations and now a back problem. I am a little concerned my battery back went back to sleep but hopefully if it does it will just need to be charged up again.
  8. TheCaptNemo

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    I did not experience that at all- does it run at all?
  9. Dsharon

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    Key on reads 0% and a flashing charge icon. Tried key cycle with no luck, tried the plugging it in for 30secs trick with no luck. Battery indicator on the pack it self shows all red LEDs. I left it plugged in on the charger and have stepped out for a few hours. Will check what it shows when I get back.
  10. aneess

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    I've seen that before but usually when you start the bike it goes back up to 100% and is ready to go.

    With the latest BMS update, my battery never goes to sleep. It definitely discharges down to 0% if not used for 30+ days though. The manual recommends charging the battery every month or so even if it's stored/not used.
  11. Dsharon

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    Just checked it, it had been on to charge for approx 4 hours, directly at the battery pack. Dash still reads 0%. Will not go into Ready, no Park light. Here is the indicator on the battery, with the final Led blinking: IMG_20191208_140607.jpg

    Given what the pack is showing, I am thinking it's time to double check all connections under the "tank".

    Anyone know if the BMS outputs directly to the dash, or does it go via the motor controller? Or is it a CAN bus between the three?
  12. aneess

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    I am guessing it goes through the controller first as the controller has to regulate energy usage. It sounds like there is connection problem at the controller level indeed (under the faux-tank). I would double check that. The battery seems fine.
  13. Dsharon

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    So i thought I found the problem. Then I rode it, now I got bigger problems.

    First of all, connections into the controller are fully seated. The sub connector for the small controller connection is also fully seated. I cycled the square connector for the battery data line harness and it finally showed battery at 100%. But not a Park light and Ready, however those had always been a bit interment. Took a second look at the battery data line sub harness to make sure all the terminals were seated and noticed the metal body of the round connector to the battery was loose. Turns out it is missing it's retaining screw, and I suspect I probably have a broken wire inside it, as you get it twisted just so and you get full battery.
    IMG_20191208_143557.jpg

    So with that finally in place and using some tape to hold the body clocked to a position where it works i set off on a test ride. No Speedometer. Made great power, and for a 1/10 of a mile the speedometer worked. Power/Eco switch did not. Neither did any Regen. Stop at the house and cycle the key, won't go into Ready mode, but shows 99% battery. Cycle harness again and now back to 0%. Check connections at controller again, and still tight.

    So besides needing a new sub harness for the battery, I am thinking I got a bad controller flash or need a new chassis harness
  14. bhappy

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    I am reporting on my initial experience with the city slicker. I bought the black one in in the fall, but have not been able to ride much due to initial delay in getting the bike registered (PA), then it got too cold. I found this forum helpful when I was contemplating my purchase, so I wanted to give back by posting this report.

    As others have noted, bike is of excellent quality, and fun to ride. On arrival, battery was at just under 80%. As recommended, I rode it down to 0%, got 31 miles in that time. I kept it mostly on Eco mode except for the last day of riding, and hit top speed of about 39mph on power mode. Speed and range dropped precipitously as the battery went under 30% (charge indicator lights up at 30%). In fact, I didn't make it home and had to push the bike the rest of the way (at times it would give a little energy so I could walk the bike rather than push it).

    CSC customer service was excellent. The motorcycle was shipped quickly, but I had some issues with the local shipping company who delivered it from the local warehouse to my home. CSC was apologetic but not much they could do about it. On arrival there was a small part missing and CSC sent a replacement immediately - I was surprised at how fast it got to me.

    Overall I am very pleased with my purchase. This is my first motorcycle and I am enjoying it so far and looking forward to the springtime to ride it again. I hope I get a little better range with the next full battery charge, and I hope I can reach the reported top speed in future rides. I live in the suburbs and cars drive rather faster on the 35-40mph roads. I assume that mine and other city slickers being sold now have the updated controller that Micah Toll and others mentioned. I am also following with interest the work by Electric Race Technologies and FRG 76 (youtube) who are working on new controllers to push the motorcycle's performance.

    Safe riding everyone!
  15. TheCaptNemo

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    Congrats- I'm sure you'll have lots of fun- you should consider moving to someplace warmer. I rode mine to work 3 days this week(skipped Thursday since it was raining and friday I wanted to get the suzuki out for a run :)
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  16. longhaul747

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    Ugh....I have not ridden my City Slicker since October :(

    Several things at play. First and foremost is the weather. It just has been damn cold and it feels 10x colder because of blood thinner I am taking. Wife and I wanted warmer weather so we got out of dodge for 3 weeks in November. Managed to re-injure my back and its only slowly getting better that I can ride now. Then last week it snowed and now the roads are now a mess. At least the days are getting longer and I am hopeful soon we will get a spring teaser day or even better an early spring. Only bike I have ridden in the past few weeks was the RX4 and that was short ride when it was a nice afternoon just before a pineapple express rain and wind storm hit and the temps were briefly 60F.

    I should probably check my battery and make sure its charged up still. It was still holding a charge as of the 1st of December. Since having it flashed I have not had mysteriously drop to 0% like it did before. I think it can still happen if it sits for long enough but I think it maybe more asleep then actually dead!
  17. bhappy

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    Thanks! I've got the motorcycle bug badly now, so I really should move somewhere warmer. Last weekend was unusually clement and there were many other motorcyclists out.
  18. bhappy

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    I took out my battery and put it in the basement at the garage gets rather cold. I don't know if this is necessary or not. I was pleased to see that the battery had a charge indicator on one side.
  19. longhaul747

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    As long as its above freezing it really should not harm the battery especially if it has a charge in it. Actually as long as its charged it should be fine well below freezing. Of coarse this is not to say that the cold does not affect performance. The cold can really mess with the performance but once it is warmed back up performance should return. One advantage of storing it indoors is if you do decide to take it for a spin the battery pack is room temperature already so performance will be better until it cools down. However typically they can hold heat as long as its being used.

    I just went out and checked my battery. It was at 0% now but once i plugged the charger it started rapidly climbing. Not sure when it decided to drop out of charge? After about 15 minutes its reading 30%. I don't really think it was totally dead just asleep but I will let it charge up and will check it again in another month assuming I still can't get a ride in. Usually we get some Spring tease days in February...Maybe!
  20. longhaul747

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    Last night I accidentally charged my battery to 100%. They say for storage 60% is more ideal. Not sure if it really matters on something like the City Slicker but I am for whatever prolongs the life of the battery.

    This morning we were between systems and rather warm (54F) and dry compared to last weeks sub freezing temperatures. Took it for about a 3 mile run and it ran as good as ever. Used about 6% of the power so now at 94%. Still above 60% but I don't think it much matters in reality. Its not like they say never charge your cell phone to 100%. Did not notice any more lag then usual. I think the newer programming in the controller helps in the colder air and I don't think my range was much impacted. Maybe a little!

    I forgot how comfortable this little bike is. Despite having some major back issues and now a mystery painful kink in my right shoulder currently I felt just fine riding it and could have gone a lot longer. Actually getting on and off a small bike is far less stressful then trying to get on a bigger bike!

    I hope shortly I can start commuting again. Really all depends but at least we are on the upswing now towards spring. The sooner I stop spending $250 a month on gas the better!