CX 650 Custom/ Stupid is as stupid dose ... till it's black and blue

Discussion in 'Some Assembly Required' started by waylongway, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. larryboy

    larryboy Stable genius.

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    I have a little turbo off of a John Deere, want to play with it? You pay shipping and it's yours, send it back if you don't use it. You'll need a pop off valve.

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  2. Kevan Garrett

    Kevan Garrett Been here awhile

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    Hey you go kid. First one is free. :evil

    Yeah, that old trap still works more often than you can imagine.

    Heh

    Kevan

    (P.S. Loving the build)
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  3. waylongway

    waylongway madmax Supporter

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    Ahhh,...What he said , OK! If you throw in that land in Florida...:deal
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  4. nouhlaC

    nouhlaC Adventurer

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    That is by far the nastiest looking lathe I have ever seen. Brush some oil on it.
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  5. waylongway

    waylongway madmax Supporter

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    Are you calling her nasty? :whip

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    I think she looks hot! :sweeti Maybe a little to much concrete makeup dust...:lol3
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  6. waylongway

    waylongway madmax Supporter

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    I like to try and have lots of things going a once ,So if I can"t do this I can do that or the other thing...

    Been trying to figure out all the parts for the frame jig and one is the cones to hold the head set..

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    E-bay $60 and that's $60 that could go somewhere else...There must be something I can make some out of??:shog

    I ask Jeff the millwright at work if he knows of something that will work. he says let me think on it..:hmmmmm

    Ten minutes he comes up with this..

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    :thumb Prefect !!Looks like some frame cones to me..

    They are conveyor belt rollers that are worn out. The middle was as thick as the ends...Cut...

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    I put them in the lathe to check them and not to bad but we will take them to the machinist for a touch up ...Then drill and cut more off...
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    Here....:huh
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    Some weird stuff here, need a rolls !:rilla

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    Scott the man!

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    I tell him what I need and back to the shop...

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    Try to work on the frame bracket to get it more eye pleasing so I can pop it out at work tomorrow (other stuff to to).

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    Then more work on the right side carriage..

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    See how we do things?
    I once took a blacksmith class for for fun. It helped me alot !!:bash

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    Pretty close, It always sucks doing the 2nd one of any thing.

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    Thats all I got..:hide

    Hey its Monday :puke1
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  7. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    Good penny-tech move on the cones !
    You are hard at it with the bulid thread, keep it coming, we're watching .
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  8. waylongway

    waylongway madmax Supporter

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    OCD??
    Maybe....:smile6 There is a vintage show in Corvallis OR. in May..I'm sure I won't have it (done) by then but I would like to bring it along as a under construction roller. :stupid
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  9. SloMo228

    SloMo228 World Class Cheapass

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    I'm in on this one. My first bike was a '79 CX500, and a year or two ago I picked up a CX650 for a project that I ended up giving to my brother for his first bike (if he ever ends up finishing it). I always thought the CX series had a great powerplant, and I wish Honda had stuck with it and kept on developing it, instead of sticking with the "safe bet" Shadow line.
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  10. jon_b

    jon_b Been here awhile

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    Esthetics and numbers moved may have killed it off unfortunately. I rode a CX500 across Canada 2 weeks after purchasing it in April 2000. I almost got frostbite but the bike didn't have a hiccup.

    Great build so far, the worn conveyor roller into jig pieces is damn funny.
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  11. waylongway

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    Turn it back a notch to last night..Got to looking at the left side pin again and still did not like the hang out on the inside.

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    I think a collar would be good around the outside ,then weld it to the frame not the nut..:norton

    After school we tool one up out of a shaft collar (hard) with the big nasty, like this..

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    Now ,lets make those brackets..1/8 should be good ..Take a look on the scrap table..:evil

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    What do we have here? Prefect...:thumb

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    mark them out...And punch set the holes.

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    Now the cheat machine..holes first. Stick the tit in the punch mark and put some stock on top to keep this thin stuff from pulling back up..


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    Put the pattern on the back for a hole check..

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    One more and to the sheer...

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    Leave some to grind..WE LOVE GRINDING..:clap:clap

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    little ruff because the sheer wants to pull this thin stuff over the edge..

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    Its only metal..:bash
    Done... clean up drive home,,,,Scott calls my head set and cone are done. :clap

    SEE....:tb
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    the cones will get drilled and cut...

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    Then the true rod..

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    Dust seal.

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    NOW we can see how the forks fit..With the spacers we got 7 5/16


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    Same..

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    Now putting on the top clamp, I'm like somthing is missing..:ddog


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    I have no top nut???:baldy
    I got so side tracked with no axle nut and the nancy boys at the yamaha shop..(The fish don't show one dude) .That the lock nut went out the window .... :becca

    Next..back to the Collar.

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    Perfect ! just need to cut it back on the nasty...

    Bracket check...

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    Stuff to do tomorrow...:wave

    Dinner time ..


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  12. 1stiski

    1stiski Ride that nasty thing

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    LOVE all the grinding:sweeti.. Keep it up.. Nice Build coming along.
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  13. bkowal

    bkowal Been here awhile

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    But that Guzzi is so pretty...

    Another warning... the starter on 650 is VERY weak, I believe Honda used the same one on the 500. It barely does the job and a top condition battery is required to get a good crank going. So, increasing the compression might be a problem.
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  14. Scubawerx

    Scubawerx Scubawerx

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    Well planned and photographed build. Enjoyable to read. Once owned a CX. Love to see this one go. Keep the reports up. Thanks.
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  15. waylongway

    waylongway madmax Supporter

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    Wow ...Thanks you guys ,I'm glad you are enjoying my stupidity .:lol3

    No pressure RIGHT? :lol3

    Yes I knew about the starter and plan to rebuild or see if my friend can rewind it....

    535 cca Odyssey should make it spin..Under the trans.:wink: I don't believe in wimpy batteries.

    2 cups of coffee and we will head to the shop...
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  16. bk brkr baker

    bk brkr baker Long timer

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    If you plan to turbo it , dropping the compresion goes with that. Starting will be easy with the low compresion , then when it spins up the turbo will bring back the compresion and add to it. Woo hoo !
    The way this build is going , it'll be plenty cool sans turbo. If you go the turbo route, woo hoo hoo .
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  17. waylongway

    waylongway madmax Supporter

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    Stay after school and finish up the collar and cones...
    first we tac the collar to this pipe so we can hang on to it..

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    Need to cut 3/8 off..

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    more rigging at the saw..

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    Live action ! yeee Haaa :jive

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    not to much...:nono

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    Now to the cones! Pilot hole..

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    16 MM next...:gun2

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    mark for the cut..

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    looks funny because one is cut off farther up the cone .

    More rigging, Hey I like this pipe on the inside now...:viking


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    More Live Action!!:jive

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    Hey look $60 E-bay cones...:deal
    I know ,,,,It would have been much EASIER to buy them. But look at all this manly stuff we are doing!! :beer We got new skills..:1drink

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    Back at the shop..:D

    Sexy...

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    Back to the collar...Almost fits..:jjen

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    Still to tight ,carbide tip..round and round ,back forth really fast... If you not not have one of these,Get one... It will make you look like a really good welder Too..:lol3

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    Hog the back out a bit ..

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    Still to tall..:fpalm

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    And what seemed like a hour we sand and sand and sand to get to this..

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    Some times the littlest things take the most time....:(:



    And some times you just nail it...:bmwrider
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    We will fill the back in with the mig now ..Almost looks like it was made that way...:wink:

    A little more bracket grinding, Oh boy more grinding...

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    OK it official.. I"m sick of grinding...:umph
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  18. larryboy

    larryboy Stable genius.

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    9.8:1 compression with 60 HP on the 650 engine. Drop the compression down to 7.8:1 and put 7 psi of boost to her for about 90 HP. :freaky Noticed in the specs that they had the accelerator pump CV carbs on these things, they do well with boosting. :deal

    Looking good, waylongway!! :clap
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  19. SloMo228

    SloMo228 World Class Cheapass

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    Forgot to ask - did you have any problems with mating the driveshaft from the single-sided swinger to the 650's output shaft? I believe you can swap the CX500 output shaft into the 650 case without much trouble if necessary.
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  20. waylongway

    waylongway madmax Supporter

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    Thanks,Larryboy!
    I found this thread on the CX and the turbo...

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=917601

    Lots, of opinions and I would Love the HP :wings ..What concerns me is the lack of new spare parts Like main bearings for these bikes,That I have found on the CX 500 forums...
    And I'm not crazy about all hoses tubes boxes the thingies that will be no way to hide..:cry

    I like a very clean and striped look.(wheres all the stuff?) look..:confused

    But I'm not ruling it out yet...Thats just too far out just yet..SO keep bugging me about it!:lol3
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