DFCR, a tale of a dr650

Discussion in 'Some Assembly Required' started by villageidiot, Aug 10, 2021.

  1. villageidiot

    villageidiot Long timer Supporter

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    got an email, my suspension bits are en route!
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    WYO George I have no idea

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    Cogent?
  3. villageidiot

    villageidiot Long timer Supporter

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    yes. Mohave pro rear, ddc’s, springs, etc etc
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    WYO George I have no idea

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    Good choice. I’m a fan of those guys. I’m having them working on a custom project for me, hopefully my first two prototypes ship later this week and then I can test them and order another dozen or so. They’ve been good to work with on building something they’ve never quite done before.
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    villageidiot Long timer Supporter

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    yeah, had their stuff on my last dr650, never thought twice to look somewhere else for suspension bits.

    what sort of project does George have cookin?
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  6. WYO George

    WYO George I have no idea

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    It’s nothing real exciting, but kinda fun.

    I’m now in charge of procuring and managing the statewide training fleet for the Wyoming MSF program. The OEMs have left us high and dry in regards to good options for training bikes, no more GZ250, BN125, GN125, VanVan etc. The new rebel 300 is terrible from an ergonomic standpoint and heavy for its size and the Star 250 is garbage on many levels so we’ve given up on both of them.

    Add in CV19 shortages and one of the few bikes we can get that meets our displacement and weight requirements is the XT250. It’s problem is being too tall for our shorter students. Lowering links suck ass and don’t meet my standards for safety so I’ve been working with Rick and Ken and they’ve designed a completely new shock for the XT to lower it while firming it up and I’m rebuilding the forks - internally lowering, restricting travel and firming them up so that we’ll have some short XT250’s in our training fleet. Almost like building a SM type from the XT platform. I have a dozen 2021 XT250’s sitting in my shop now and another dozen relatively new ones already in the fleet. If the first two prototypes meet my standards then I’ll be placing an order for 15-20 more shocks and over the winter I’ll be modifying forks and kickstands and swapping shocks getting ready for next summer’s training classes.

    The XT is not our only training bike, just the tallest and most in need of lowering. I just finished lowering a TW prototype using my own parts and it’s a winner, but the stock XT shock gave no good option so building a clean sheet design was necessary, hence Cogent!
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    villageidiot Long timer Supporter

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    awesome!
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    WYO George I have no idea

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    Yeah, I enjoy making stuff that didn’t really exist previously.
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    villageidiot Long timer Supporter

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    if more people would understand proper lowering of suspension vs lowering links and sliding the tubes thru the trees, i think theyd see the light. but, its prohibitively expensive for a lot of people.
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    WYO George I have no idea

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    I agree. I get budgets, but this way we’ll have about $800ish per bike and given the nature of their use it’s money well spent versus student injuries and legal fees!
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    JRowland reaching for the sky Supporter

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    I wondered about all the XTs in a picture I saw from you a few weeks back. That’s pretty cool, I like that you really care about your students.
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  12. Dino de Laurentiis

    Dino de Laurentiis Working on it

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    Lowering the fork tubes internally isn’t that expensive though. The biggest expense is the new shorter springs which really shouldn’t be that expensive (unless one shortens the stocker like I did on mine). Of course, it’s still more expensive than dropping them through clamps so I guess that’s the answer.
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    WYO George I have no idea

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    On a lot of bikes you don’t even need new springs, just spacers which are easily made.
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    villageidiot Long timer Supporter

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    of course, but for guys not like ourselves who won’t dig into a fork and make spacers etc, it becomes what? At minimum 4 hours of labor charge?
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    Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder!

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    I used to be a partner in a new rider school, and we got lucky -- we got a smokin' deal a bunch of Suzuki GN250s from another school that had gone out of business. Every. single. one. of them needed valve adjustments. Lots of time idling in a hot parking lot.

    We wanted to expand our fleet, and also looked at XT250s -- we reached the same conclusion. Too tall for most beginner riders, other than that, they'd be perfect.

    Have you considered any of the Chinese/Korean 125s? I suggested buying one on a trial basis to test durability & suitability, but my partners refused.
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  16. mtech1950

    mtech1950 Been here awhile

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    gosh I haven't thought about a hydrak in 40 years....used to work on them at a dealership in the early 70's
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    WYO George I have no idea

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    I’m debating some of the China bikes. I looked at one brand and immediately wrote it off due to having no clutch lever, just a shifter like the old Honda CTs. I have 150 bikes in my fleet, try to buy 15 a year to get into a ten year rotation, but currently running a few bikes from the 1990’s so it’ll take a few years to get there.

    Sorry for the hijack C, didn’t mean to derail your thread.
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    Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder!

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    Kymco was the brand I couldn't remember....
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    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Kymco is Taiwanese FWIW.
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    villageidiot Long timer Supporter

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    Aaaaand I believe the wheels will be here Monday as well!!

    things are now starting to come together.
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