Dl650 Hack

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by brstar, Dec 26, 2010.

  1. brstar

    brstar Long timer

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    Rehash some bolts a bit shorter.
    A welded square head means it only needs one spanner to do up.
    And yeah cheap on dollars though not time.
    Be doing a few like this.
    This one is 14mm which is a total oddball size.
    The shocks take 4 x 1/2"
    There has been a lot of rehashing here and more to come.
    It takes me quite a while usually to work how to make what I have do what is needed.
    But getting there.

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    In position with the trimmed guard fitting nicely.

    Note the quick change height adjuster.

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    Harley shocks sitting nicely at height without much sag though they feel like they will ride softly.
    Air pressure maybe the go yet.


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    There will be a maximum of 4 bolts to remove the whole suspension setup.
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  2. brstar

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    Tickidy tack tack with adjustment as simple as I know how.
    Doesn't really show much but maybe tomorrow I will get more up.
    On the screen that is.
    Reasonably satisfied with the setup now.
    Had to move the shocks to the more forward setting.
    Just need a bit of testing and paint.
    Bought some paint at Aldi today.
    Was a bit of a laugh.
    1st I went to the Chiropractor. (Erica a lovely lass and good at her job)
    Then I went and bought my government rationed 3 bottles of wine while maintaining the 2 meter sheeple rule.
    Next was on to get the gold plated Moto Guzzi specified 10- 60 weight oil. $83 for 4 liters.
    OK that's cheap enough if you change it yourself and it only takes 2 liters.
    Then on the way back I called into Aldi again and got another 3 bottles.
    Its a weird world we live in at the moment.
    Oh and the wife went back to work this week for the bank she has worked at for the last 33 years.
    (2 branches)
    The bank offered to pay for her Uber ( private Taxi? ) fees.
    $67 each way to work.
    Go figure.
    So Uber it is as the public transport ( trains and buses ) are running on the reduced weekend time table.


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    Ah yes Aldi had these for $10. I may need a couple of Schreader valves to put into the Harley shocks now.
    I told the guy behind me in the que, Its P day today.
    He gave me a quizzical look?
    Yeah I said paint plants pump and plonk.
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  3. brstar

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    1st coat with a brush.
    I read the tin,
    Spraying is not recommended.
    All that work boils down to a few bits and pieces.
    now with a bit of paint.
    In the two big tool boxes behind is my supply of random bits of scrap metal.
    So far very handy.
  4. brstar

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    Would put this slotted angle on up the other way on future projects.
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    The reason it adjusts easily is this piece of angle.
    Toe in with the slotted holes under.
    The hole on the right is higher than the one on the left resulting in camber of the wheel.
    If its too much it is easily slotted.
    previously it was just didn't think it needed it.
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    I was wrong it only requires undoing two blots to remover the wheel and suspension in one piece.
    The ride height adjuster stays.

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    Next I suppose is to air the tires and ride.
    Maybe was some of the dust of it as well seeing as it sat for nearly 2 months.
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  5. brstar

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    I have a couple of tabs welded to the sidecar frame that don't change distance from the bike (Parallel).
    so it's fairly easy to set the outside bar as my toe in, 19mm over 1.9m.
    It may need adjusting but for now near enough.

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    Air in the tyres and away we went.

    At 50, 60, 70, speed zones it seemed more neutral at a constant speed.

    For a short distance I was able to run at 110 and seemed all good.
    Sorry that's KPH for those getting excited.

    The reason for the refurb was the 12mm pivot bolts on the swingarm.
    And general cobbled together ugliness.
    Yes even I have my limits.
    There was always going to be too much play.
    And being the axle is ahead of the swingarm it tended to self steer the wrong way.
  6. WILL_S

    WILL_S OUTLAW POSTIE 001

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    How does having a leading swingarm make it steer the wrong way?
    Got that on the cobbled together djp chassis.
  7. brstar

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    It had a bit of play in the bushes so the the toe in and out varied.
    Cheap Chinese setup now using a Yamaha swingarm shaft and much larger bushes.
    Minuscule play now.
  8. brstar

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    Fired the Yam up 1st time in too long.
    Had to drain fuel from the tank and carbs then put in some 95 octane.
    Started second kick and purred like a kitten at idle.
    I think it was either better fuel than when I got it (I:E 95 as against 92 octane).
    Or fresher as ran better than I remember.
    It apparently has the points locked at maximum advance for racing.
    I was looking at where to mount a road legal muffler from the collection I have.
    The fish tail would look cool but its on the small side.

    The swingarm pivot is set at a good 30deg away from square to the bike so must have some steer affect as the wheel moves up.
    Its a bit obscured by the plastic container holding the screws I removed.

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    https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bal.../raked-36-harley-softail-front-end/1244627647
    This is a 36 degree raked front end that came off a 2001 Softail (FXST)
    Standard rake for that year was/is 32'..
    This equats tto 4deg rake?

    Because I live in one of the most isolated capitals on the planet and this sort of stuff is extremely rare to have locally I though to ask some of the more knowledgeable amongst us.
    I have in mind the Guzzi as the recipient.
    I was thinking somebody might have the dimensions at hand.
    Things like fork diameter,
    Fork centers,
    Offset at the top triple.
    Last is one I have been caught on before is the spacing in between triples.
    The Guzzi is at 225 centers with 40mm forks.

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  9. WILL_S

    WILL_S OUTLAW POSTIE 001

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    Might want distance between top and bottom bearing too. If it has to come up or down too much it won't line up fork tubes too good .
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  10. SidecarLeigh

    SidecarLeigh Been here awhile

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    Hi Brstar, those early Wasps and replicas had the angled sidecar swingarm to assist them to turn right, which they did really well. The down side is you need really good shocker "ends" and the " wheel track" widened as the sidecar wheel travelled up, which sometimes had the rear tyre breaking away or spinning. Love the Yamaha XS650 by the way. Cheers Leigh
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  11. brstar

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    Anzac day here.
    No Marches or mass gatherings for the dawn service to remember our fallen soldiers over the last hundred and more years. (125? yrs if you count the Boer war)
    Some conflicts our soldiers have served and sacrificed in.
    The great war,
    2nd world war,
    Korea,
    Malaysia,
    Vietnam,
    Iraq,
    Afghanistan,
    And other places that slip my mind for now.

    So it was a candles lit outside homes pre dawn.

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  12. brstar

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    Good points Will and Leigh.
    Found this on a hardly site.

    Fork Tube Center to Center Spacing Info
    39mm Stock 7.000"
    39mm Mid-Glide 8.437"
    39mm Wide-Glide 9.875"

    Approximates to
    177.8 mm
    214.3 mm
    250.8 mm
    I think 2001 alphabet soup of that variations flavour had 41.3mm forks in them (As against spoons)
    Therefore 40mm Guzzi forks could theoretically be shimmed in.
  13. brstar

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    Went to look at the triple trees Sunday.
    The top and bottom triples seemed to be about 30mm to close together to work.
    Pity.
    It seemed to one of those things that may possibly be made to work..... but...
    Not wanting to waste the guys time or my money ($280) I left it there.
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    An earlier native Australian.
    From when we had 4 companies that were manufacturing cars of this size in Australia.
    Holden (GM), Ford, Chrysler, and this one Leyland.
    The boot (trunk) could take a 44 imperial gallon drum easily.
    I spoke to the owner for a bit.
    He said out of 400 or so Leyland P76's with this trim/wheel option only 600 odd survive. :jack

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    No power at home today as these people were changing over the wires to a solid cable.

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    OK so took a run to pick up some cheap oars for yet another potential project.
    So on the way back I called into my mates Garden Nursery.
    It is one of the businesses that the Chinese import virus did not have a negative effect on.
    Ron said every day is busy now like Saturday.

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    Stopped for fuel on the way home.
    Think I cut it a bit fine.
    318klm on 20.77 ltrs
    Must have been close to walking.

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    Fuel prices are way down as well. I got a 4c discount on this as well.

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    Dang I just realized I put premium unleaded in the Suzie.
    It only needs 92 octane not premium.
    Each different fuel company uses a different colour code on their pump nozzles.
    Still a lot cheaper than at the beginning of the year.
    Weird thing about the fuel gauge on the Suzie is sticks on empty for a long time after a refill.
    Outfit after a few rides now i think has a slight bias to the right.
    That's away from the chair.
    Another mod coming up I think.
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  15. Bobmws

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    So, they're multiplying? :hmmmmm
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  16. CCjon

    CCjon Gypsy Rider Supporter

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    He said out of 400 or so Leyland P76's with this trim/wheel option only 600 odd survive. :jack


    Hmmm... must be the special Limited Edition.
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  17. brstar

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    Leyland only made cars here for a short time.
    The various features of this option are easy to duplicate and with no records available from a defunct company.
    There may have been 1 or 2 copies to chase the extra perceived cool factor.
    Years ago I looked through a private car museum in Albany (pronounced with an A as in hay).
    They had things like the caddie that Elvis shot and other cars that were actually very cool.
    One was was one of seven 2 door alloy V8 Leylands. They were built just before the company folded.
    I think one won a Sydney to London rally.
    The cars were all for sale.
    I suggested the the Leyland was a good buy at $7k.
    Not far from new car price at the time.
    Of course the spouse and in-laws looked at me like I was losing the plot.
    Their worth around 150k now.
    Didn't have the money then anyway.
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  18. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Ok I heard a gent from one of the classic car registries explain that they had more L-88 Chevelle's registered and GM ever built :hmmmmm

    The welding shop I used to hang at was a tenant of a now passed gentlemen who restored 50-60's Chevy's he would make them into whatever was necessary :hmmmmm
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    Easy enough to run the VIN to see what it left the factory as.
  20. DRONE

    DRONE Dog Chauffeur

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    I'm curious about this. If 92 octane in Australia is NOT premium, what's premium?