Does this CB tank need a wing?

Discussion in 'Old's Cool' started by redlabelmoto, Apr 9, 2020.

  1. redlabelmoto

    redlabelmoto Been here awhile

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    Purists avert your eyes! At some point in the distant past Dr Frankenstein created this thing. A CB350F with 1980’s 1st gen Njnja 600 front forks, rear suspension, swingarm, wheels, etc. Dr F appears to have been completely deranged but not without skill as the fab work is quite well done.

    I have no idea who they were or why they did it. I’ve known of this bike for several years and watched it bounce around from 3 owners all employed in the local Seattle motorsports scene. It became mine (for better or worse) a few weeks back.

    Anyway. I just had the tank and seat section painted. I had the area of the tank that formerly had the “HONDA” emblems smoothed over. My painter used his imagination with the rest and it looks pretty swell imo. The orange is a color used on a CB750 and maybe a 500 or 550 also.

    Does the tank need a wing decal or something else to finish it off? Let me know what you all think thanks!


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  2. shupe

    shupe Been here awhile

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    I'd say yes. Looks like an empty spot there.
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  3. ShOqUePoT

    ShOqUePoT GS Pot

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    It does look like something is missing. Quality work though!
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  4. davidji

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    I think rubber grip pads over the black might be better. Think Honda Dream, R75/5 etc
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  5. MK1MOD0

    MK1MOD0 Been here awhile

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    Gold wing would look great
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  6. roaddog12

    roaddog12 Wait,what? Supporter

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    Yes, go with the classic old style wings but they need to be done with the same skill and talent as the rest of the work
    Who painted that ? I need to send him some work
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  7. ishmac

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    A Honda wing would just complete it....!

    Lovely colour scheme that...

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  8. redlabelmoto

    redlabelmoto Been here awhile

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    Thanks all. Yes some vintage wings in gold should do the trick sans the “HONDA” script. I needed the confirmation from the asylum lol.

    My friend Mitch does this stuff. Email him at mitchellsmooth@live.com if you’re in the Seattle area and need some paint work done.
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  9. redlabelmoto

    redlabelmoto Been here awhile

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    Here she is in the wild. Have not sourced a wing decal yet but it’s on my list. As horrible as it sounds grafting Ninja 600 front/rear ends onto a 350F it actually sorta works. Whoever did this was a decent fabricator with fine attention to detail.

    This bike was an almost finished project when I got it. I’ve finished up some details and painted it. Went through the carbs and she lit first kick. It already had a dyna ignition. Electric starter had been deleted. Had not run in at least 7 years I was told.

    The riding position is pure comedy. Your feet are so far back you can see your left foot in the mirror. If you can’t do push ups you cannot ride this bike lol. Also it is TINY. I‘m barely 5’9” and I dwarf it.

    Methinks the seat pad needs more “poof” for the proper aesthetic. I have not yet permanently attached the pad while I decide what to do.

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  10. MK1MOD0

    MK1MOD0 Been here awhile

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    Very cool bike. Looks like a ton of fun !!! I think the seat looks great as is. Not sure how it feels after an hour , but if tolerable, I wouldn’t change it to something thicker. So what are the wheels from ? Don’t recognize them at all.
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  11. redlabelmoto

    redlabelmoto Been here awhile

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    The wheels, rear suspension, swingarm, forks, brakes, etc are all from a mid-80’s 1st gen Ninja 600. The wheels have 2-piece plastic covers that make them seem like solid discs. I don’t think the covers were home made they appear to be something made professionally.
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  12. FLGSARider

    FLGSARider Been here awhile Supporter

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    Very cool bike. Just my opinion, yes the tank needs something like a retro Honda flying wing logo. JMO. YMMV. Love the color choice. Share some more pics as you progress.
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  13. neil w

    neil w Been here awhile

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    Better with something like this a domed gel style badge honda wing.jpg
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  14. ishmac

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    That would look smart....! Nice


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  15. DiggerD

    DiggerD DougFir from SuperDuke Days

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    The hub caps makes the bike look heavy / bulky...imho.

    It makes it look unbalanced.
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  16. redlabelmoto

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    I agree it looks odd. The fitted disc caps are hiding the 16” 1985-ish Ninja 600 wheels. I would have to think those wheels (were they uncapped) would look even funkier on this bike if you could see them.

    In the pics you see the bike with the ancient tires that were on it when I got it. Oddly enough they were undersized compared to what was supposed to come on a Ninja 600 of that generation. I have installed new Pirelli Sport Demons in the correct larger sizes. They seem to fill out the spaces better and perhaps de-emphasize the solid disc look.

    Dont get me wrong it’s still weird. The whole thing is weird. My goal is to finish what was started and see if I like it.
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  17. redlabelmoto

    redlabelmoto Been here awhile

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    I sourced oem Honda tank decals meant for a CB50R. Being quite small they seem to be about the right size. Plus they have an “old” look and say “HM” not “Honda” which I think makes sense since this bike is such a franken build. The matching bit of gold to what my painter did was the kicker.



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  18. DiggerD

    DiggerD DougFir from SuperDuke Days

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    Food for thought if I was to take this bike under my wing.
    The bike is real close to a period look if you do something with the wheels, like go back to spokes.
    The paint job is great and the decal will really balance the tank out.
    As noted the rear set placement are a joke.
    Looks like the exhaust dictated the placement.
    Again, look for a period exhaust can that allows a comfortable rear set location so you or someone else can get some good use out of the bike.
    Aluminum dirt bike bars and more padding on the seat will offer more comfort.

    It's one thing looking at old photos and dreaming about what you think a cool bike is and actually putting miles on a bike.
    There is a new wave of builders that do a lot of arm chair design from books or on line and not from the seat of pants, where it should form.
    Function over form...…..imho.
    Cheers!
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  19. redlabelmoto

    redlabelmoto Been here awhile

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    digger those are all great points. Of course for this bike to be a “proper” build it would have spoked wheels and a motocross bar and a real seat. With footpegs not 3 feet behind you. I had taken all of that into consideration the from the moment I was dragging the thing home in the van.

    I can’t go there with this one. My goal is to properly finish what had been started. I’m no builder although I’m fairly adept at sorting out final details and making things “right”.

    I hear you on the that state of affairs with some of the “things” that are being built by new wave “builders”. I am just as horrified as any of us at what I see sometimes.

    At least with this bike it’s not pretending to be anything more than a hyper-extreme fully committed naked road racer for the street. Someone put an absurd amount of time/effort into it at some point in the past. I’m not going to reengineer what the mystery person started. I’m merely going to finish it and see how terrifying it really is.

    When I’m done we’ll see if it sticks around in the fleet. At 5’9” it’s a tiny motorcycle for me. My 5’3” power lifter friend Gary who rides a modded ‘71 Norton and a ‘73 Ironhead loves this thing. He may claim the prize. Here he is the day I got it. For some reason he’s sitting on a towel.

    All of the proportions seem to work for him. Of course Gary can do about 200 pushups before breaking a sweat lol.


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  20. redlabelmoto

    redlabelmoto Been here awhile

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    I stickered up. oem Honda CB50R tank decals. The gold around the “HM” almost perfectly matches the gold in the pretend knee pads.

    I think it looks alright!

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