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Discussion in 'Regional Forums' started by cyberdos, Jan 4, 2019.
Cyber, would you still need the permit for that loop? Sounds like a winner - thanks.
I do believe that you will need a permit. We hardly saw a soul out there when we rode through those parts last year but we all had or permits.
FYI... for the WRT riders... The rangers that are out there do check for passes but more than that.. they casually ask you what time you started the trail. They know exactly how long it should take you to get to any particular spot... hence they know if you were speeding. They'll write you up for that. Although seeing rangers on the trail is a 'hit n miss' kinda thing, they're always at the end gate checking. We lucked out when we went through the gates.. 3 rangers and they were all busy already.
Would that be the shorter GREEN route with a few straight runs ? Looks workable for half a day ? Maybe on the way in or going home. Thanks.
Have already been reading up on that.
I see some of the routes dip into Colorado- from what I understand a CO permit is needed to ride any public land there- correct?
I plan on grabbing one when I get to CO because I do want to ride more trails there before/after the rally.
Side note- we went to drive the White Rim trail in our 4x4 back in 2014- got there and were denied entry.
We had our dogs with us and they aren't allowed on the trail even if they stay IN your vehicle!
We looked into kennels and there was some sort of disease/flu hitting the dog kennels in Moab. NOPE! Not risking that. We were really bummed about the whole thing.
I'm in +1
Yes. The green one that is labeled 'Taste of WRT' is 110 [edit: 176 mile] mile loop back to La Sal.
If you want to ride the entire WRT there's a blue track labeled 'White Rim Trail'. That one is a 138 mile loop back to Moab. if doing that one from La Sal you'll have to add about 80 miles to the overall day.
Typical time demands might be ~10 hours for the whole loop? Plus transit?
I think we were out for at least 10 hours last year. Riding out of the south end of Moab.
Chuck and I rode the WRT Moab and back to Moab, 9 am to 5 pm, 158 miles, rode slow (Chuck's first trip, lotsa photo stops and WOW moments). Julio's 'Taste of the White Rim' is a very good and easy ride - I won't miss this one.
On my way down Shafer's Trail.
Near the top of Long Canyon
That is the primary problem with guestimating time when it comes to riding these trails. IMO, the WRT is not a difficult ride but there are so many wow moments that it would be a shame to bomb through it without stopping to enjoy the scenery. Pack lunch for that one because last I heard they closed all the Starbucks along the trail.
Yeah, it's like NO WHERE ELSE. My first trip to southern Utah was 1972 (Lake Powell). I've been back almost every year since.
A nice choice of lengths/time to get acquainted with the area.
I hope to tag along with others with similar interests and ability (desire to survive) and I do not have any GPS knowledge/ability so I could see myself getting lost at trail intersections.
Hmmmmm, do I go left or right here????
I have never been to Utah, or ridden that type of terrain, or in that kind of heat.
I start melting once the temperature reaches 80.
I would love to do the White Rim but not a 10 hour ride, so your Highlites (Taste of WRT) ride sounds great to me.
I will just see how I do and if it is just too hot for my blood (and brain) I will ride in the morning and kick back during the heat of the day.
Hot tub? No thanks! I want a swimming pool.
Lots of tricks to manage the heat. LOTS of water is first on the list. I live at 50º North but have travelled several desert countries. Minimum 4 Litres of water (maybe 2 frozen bottles) packed with options on 2 more if it's a longer day, then you could use some inside your jacket or helmet. Hydration salts & sugar mix helps, Lime Gatorade works for me in the bottles. A Camelback which I sip at least 4 big mouthfuls every 30 minutes. If you aren't pissing, you aren't drinking enough.
A sensible snack is always good to carry too. I use Clif Bars or granola bars with fruits ... raisins & dried apricots is my fave. Minimal caffeine. A decent lunch break out of the sun. Proper ventilated clothing.
Getting out early before the heat increases is best. In Australia, India, Mexico, & Morocco, we were up & moving by 06:00, finishing by 14:00.
Others may have more ideas to keep sane & cool.
In for the Taste of WRT with scenic riding souls.
Just thinking, if you don't have a lightweight jacket & pants, maybe someone else could loan you something. Your size, inseam, & weight to match ??
Looks like we are forming at least one riding party.
I think that would be a fantastic ride for those that have never been to Moab.
Here's the kicker. I just recaluclated the route. It's actually 176 mile loop. 135 miles paved, 41 miles offroad.
I still think it can be an epic day of riding for those that want a taste.