Economics of reloading ammo(e)

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  1. FPGT72

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    I am wanting to get into BP for this guy. I am really stuck on history, and this gun was shot its entire life as a black powder rifle....so I want to do that and see the difference.

    Amazing this gun is pretty clean, nice bore.

    Looks like it is going to rain all week, that means this weekend if I want to shoot I will have to drive to the club, or dig out a swamp buggy......my shooting area is really a flood area....There is a waterfall around where the steel sits at home.

    I am going to cut down each of the recipes a smidge and see what I am getting. I don't need to fling them that hard.....What I am working on is a good accurate round for a CMP match.....yea I want to shoot this thing in a cmp match.....I think it will be fun.....I so suck at that game as I am squirrel and then on to something else....Still need to shoot my carcano in a match. I bet I would get pretty good at one thing if I could just do one thing....just not the way I am wired.
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  2. WECSOG

    WECSOG Dirt Road Denizen

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    If you download it with black, it's a good idea to use a filler such as cream of wheat, so you have light compression. BP doesn't like empty space.
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  3. FPGT72

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    I have read that....all kinds of things people use to "fill it up" I was looking at an 11mm german BP rifle.....but the price of the brass made me go :mad?.... just insane.
  4. Bill-66

    Bill-66 I don't even know... Supporter

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    Question for the collective...

    I have gotten back into reloading, bought a Dillon 550, 4 caliber set ups..etc etc. mainly all pistol stuff as I have gotten into ICORE, Speed Steel and USPSA.

    I bought a Lipseys 5” 10mm GP 100 snd am shooting .40 out of it for a Limited 6 gun..


    Shooting a 180 grain coated over 6.1 grains of CFE. What effect does OAL have on pressures? Accuracy? It would make sense that the least amount of “jump” to the forcing cone, would be best and I am setting them up pretty long now..if I set them to a length that would work in an auto gun, they’d have to get a few tenths shorter..

    Thanks in Advance...
  5. _Harry_

    _Harry_ Redneck Emeritus Supporter

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    Pressure won't be an issue with that sort of load in a GP100, they're built like tanks. And jump length probably isn't as important in a revolver as it is in rifles. Usually with revolver loads the bullet cannelure/crimp sets the OAL and you live with it.

    If your .40 loads don't have a cannelure crimp you should be careful setting the OAL too long - the recoil could push the other bullets in the cylinder forward and lock up the gun.
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  6. WECSOG

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    Seating the bullets longer makes more space inside the case, thereby lowering pressure. You will be able to load it a bit hotter if you want to.
  7. Bill-66

    Bill-66 I don't even know... Supporter

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    No cannelure, just taper crimp...and the bullet has enough room to fall out as the cylinder is built for 10mm :lol3
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    Bill-66 I don't even know... Supporter

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    I want the minimum that reliably makes power factor...a 180 gr bullet at 1000 is plenty with a cushion.
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  9. _Harry_

    _Harry_ Redneck Emeritus Supporter

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    So do you want 1 cartridge for 2 guns or (?) Why not just load 10mm for the GP100 and standard length 40 for the auto? :scratch
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    WECSOG Dirt Road Denizen

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    What I want to know is why Ruger doesn't chamber it for 10mm Magnum and market as suitable for all three cartridges?
  11. Bill-66

    Bill-66 I don't even know... Supporter

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    Nope, just the revolver load. Because I have a shit ton of brass and the shorter the case, the faster the reloads..
  12. _Harry_

    _Harry_ Redneck Emeritus Supporter

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    Well you'll never get the same accuracy from the 40 loads as you would 10mm in that cylinder. If you need tight groups invest in some 10mm brass. I doubt the extra few thousands OAL you squeeze out of a .40 cartridge will make any difference since you already have a huge jump to the forcing cone.

    I have a .454/45 Ruger Alaskan and I can never get it to group as tightly with the 45 loads as the 454 rounds..
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    For a long time I shot a S&W 610 in IDPA. I always shot it with .40 S&W and, although if I put it on a bench and shot 10mm vs .40 S&W I could get the least bit better groups with 10mm, an IDPA target would never tell the difference. I eventually changed to a S&W 646, which is an L frame and only does .40S&W.

    I do know my .327 Federal revolvers shoot much better with the longer cartridge than with .32 H&R cartridges. There's enough of a difference there so that now I never fire .32H&R in the .327 Fed. If I want .32H&R I just shoot one of my H&R revolvers. Same with .44 Spl, if I want to shoot .44 Spl I shoot it in a .44 Spl revolver.
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    WYO George Epstein didn’t kill himself

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    My Rugers shoot better with 44 mag than 44 special, but my Colt Anaconda shoots a 44 special as good or better than the magnums
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    kbuckey Long timer Super Supporter

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    I gotta admit that most of my .44 Mags haven't even seen a .44 Spl fired in them. In fact only my old Super Blackhawk, which definitely prefers the Mags. But I do love shooting .44 Spls in the .44 Spl revolvers. Somehow it doesn't feel like I'm whimping out like when I fire Spls in a Mag!
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    I've had 5 44 specials over the years but am down to one - A S&W 624 4". All though I will admit to admiring those mid frame Rugers you-all are posting. 20181115_142955.jpg
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    While I most commonly download to 'Special' equivalents in magnum brass to skip the whole lead/crap accumulation at the front of the cylinder I do use actual 'Special' brass to shoot our club's plate rack or indoor range which are both "No Magnum" zones. Can't be setting a bad example.... until my term on the board of directors expires. Heck, I even have .41 Special brass!

    Bruce
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    This...Only need 3” group at 20 yards or so.

    It shoots my load to half that.
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  19. FPGT72

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    Thread is back to life...

    Quickload.....anyone play with it.

    I got a copy and it came in this week, aside from loading it up and taking about 10min to look around at that fantastic 1990's interface I have not done a thing.
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    I thought that I was saving money rolling my own .357 Sig ammunition, but I’m really saving money rolling my own .45 Colt. The cheapest off the shelf stuff I could find locally was about $35 a box, and watered down :yikes.

    Side by side with a .38 Special.
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    -Jake
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