Electric Motorcycle & Scooter News/Updates

Discussion in 'Electric Motorcycles' started by voltsxamps, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. Cat0020

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    Just what is the "direction for real rider" vs "hipsters"?

    Here within the U.S. motorcycle market; what do "real riders" ride or buy?

    IMO, electric bike market for 60+ mph, 200+ mile range & 30 charge time are the novelty, niche market.
    Most application for electric bikes are going to be short distance (<40 mile per ride), avg. speed less than 30 mph, top speed rarely exceed 45 mph, urban city riding that have easy access to charging stations.
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    BMW Boss: ‘We’re not interested in electric motorcycles, only scooters’
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    Published 10 hours ago on February 28, 2018

    BMW Managing Director doesn’t predict much of an immediate future for electric motorcycles. But he bets big on scooters!
    Stephan Schaller, the BMW Motorrad MD isn’t one to mince words. When he launched the electric Concept Link at the Concorso d’Eleganza Villa in 2017 he and the mammoth motorcycle manufacturer already stated that he believed that vehicles that ‘move in the city’ would be the focus for the company’s electric future; referring directly to scooters such as the C-Evolution or the Concept Link.

    Now, in an interview with Italian publisher Motociclismo, he speaks with even more clarity when discussing placing batteries into larger, motorcycle-shaped frames.

    “Building an electric motorcycle isn’t an impossible, technical challenge, and you can solve every problem. But can you imagine supplying electricity in the desert?”, he continues, referring to putting batteries into a GS Adventure.

    “I am convinced that 2018 will see a significant increase in the sales of these [electric] models. And I’m speaking of scooters and not of motorcycles”.

    BMW are one of the only ‘major’ manufacturers currently with an actual electrically-powered two-wheeler within their catalogue with the C-Evolution. And if the interview with the Italian website is anything to go by, it looks as if that could well be joined by the production version of the Concept Link by 2021

    “It will arrive within three years, and it will be very close to the prototype shown on Lake Como by style, accessories and technical equipment”, he says.

    BMW haven’t been shy in revealing electrified versions of their existing models – even wheeling a battery-powered S1000RR on stage at an event in 2015, later confirmed to be their RR concept – but for now at least, it looks like electric scooters are where the immediate future lie.

    Unless any of the new, young guns – or the old warhorse Harley Davidson – have something to say about it.

    https://www.motofire.com/2018/02/bmw-boss-were-not-interested-in-electric-motorcycles-only-scooters/
  3. ctromley

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    I almost agree with everything said here, for BMW. BMW makes top-level bikes with a common characteristic of being long-distance-capable, on road or off. So it makes sense for them to stay away from EMs for now. The one exception is the G310 series, which are very likely used as commuters and around-town runabouts by a majority of their riders. But that's also a very cost-sensitive segment, so not a good fit for an EM today.

    The good news is that BMW is getting into the game, and will start learning what only production can teach you about being in the EM market. They will advance the technology and everyone will benefit. Maybe when they get their legs under them and see how simple EM production can be, a G310-like EM will follow.
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    davenowherejones short old guy

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    Several reviewers of the BMW electric scooter said: "harsh on the butt" or something like that.
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    ^ Maybe they were referring to the Link Concept which doesn't look very comfortable to me at all.

    On the other hand, Revzilla said "the BMW C evolution has the most comfortable seat of any two wheeled vehicle I've ever encountered, bar none"

    https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/electric-scooters-to-look-for-and-look-forward-to
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    Thanks .. I guess BMW improved the saddle because the info I got was a review from one of the first owners, in Europe.
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    This could be the game changer that makes EV/EM’s mainstream:

    China's solar road will charge cars as they drive
    John Beltz Snyder

    1 day ago

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    In Jinan, China, there's a section of highway over which some 45,000 vehicles drive every day. A company called Qilu Transportation Development Group is converted about two-thirds of a mile of that roadway to generate solar electricity — enough to power the highway lights and 800 homes. Qilu Transportation isn't stopping there, though. Looking forward to a future of electric and autonomous driving, the goal is to make the road smart. Eventually, it will be able to provide more accurate traffic updates and mapping, and even wirelessly charge the batteries of electric vehicles as they drive.

    As we learn in a Bloomberg article titled "China's Built a Road So Smart It Will Be Able to Charge Your Car," two lanes of the road are layered with transparent material and solar cells. There's also room in the top layer to accommodate wires for inductive charging, as well as sensors that can monitor temperature, traffic and weight.

    [​IMG]© Provided by AOL Inc.Qilu Transportation Development Group's Solar Highway
    The time frame for fully productive smart roads is still unclear, though. "From the angle of the technology itself, charging is not a problem," said Qilu Transportation General Manager Zhou Yong. "The vehicles that can be charged wirelessly aren't used on roads yet." The section of road will have to be made longer in order to actually be able to provide vehicles with any significant charge. Furthermore, the costs need to drop from about $1,112 per square meter to about $477 to make mass adoption viable. The company says it is working with domestic automakers on the technology, but didn't name them.

    The tests come as China is pushing to become a stronger leader in manufacturing, technology, and transportation. Jinan, where the smart road is being built, is home to China National Heavy Duty Truck Group (which is backed in part by Volkswagen'sMAN) and a factory owned by Volvo parent company Geely. China accounted for more than half of global EV sales in 2017. Read more at Bloomberg.

    https://www.msn.com/en-za/cars/news/chinas-solar-road-will-charge-cars-as-they-drive/ar-AAvPK8H
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    Honda starts work on electric scooters for India
    Pankaj Doval | TNN | Apr 10, 2018, 21:32 IST

    Honda Motorcycle and Scooter India (HMSI), the country’s second-biggest two-wheeler maker, has started work on developing electric scooters for the Indian market, the move coming at a time when there is increased focus on green technologies as the government looks at ways to curb the growing pollution across cities.

    Minoru Kato, president and CEO of HMSI, said that work regarding the electric scooters is being carried out at its headquarters in Japan. “Inputs are also being taken from the Indian operation,”

    He said that the minimum range that the company is targeting on a single charge is 100 kms.

    https://m.timesofindia.com/business...c-scooters-for-india/articleshow/63701440.cms
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    2012 Zero Motorcycles Recall
    Zero Motorcycles has recalled all 2012 Zero S, Zero DS, and Zero DSP (Police) motorcycles due to possible electrical issues that may cause a fire.

    The recall affects 218 units. Zero says the cell pouches in the electric motorcycle battery packs may wear from contact with the holders, allowing humidity to enter the pouch and cause an electrical short within the battery. A short may increase the risk of a fire.

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    2012 Zero S

    Owners are advised to no longer ride or charge the affected motorcycles. Zero Motorcycles dealers will arrange for the collection of the affected motorcycle at no charge to the owners.

    Zero Motorcycles will notify owners and offer them a choice of either the repurchase of their motorcycle or a financial trade-assist towards a newer model year Zero Motorcycles motorcycle.

    The recall is expected to begin April 30, 2018. Owners may contact Zero customer service at 1-888-841-8085. Zero’s number for this recall is SV-ZMC-018-383.

    Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov. The NHTSA Campaign Number is 18V215000.

    https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/20...218-models-recalled-for-potential-short-fire/
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    Zero Motorcycles, arguably the leader in the electric vehicle market, has been expanding lately by working with other companies to adapt their powertrain technology to other vehicles. Case in point:

    Zero Motorcycles is making a twin electric motor bike with Curtiss Motorcycles
    Fred Lambert

    Confederate Motors President Matt Chambers says that they reached the limits of what they can do with internal combustion engines in their crazy-looking mechanical design motorcycles.

    So they are changing the name to Curtiss Motorcycles and going electric with the help of leading electric motorcycle maker Zero Motorcycles.

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    They will be making 13 more units of their $155,000, 150 horsepower, and 165 pound-feet of torque Bomber motorcycle, which will be the last bike under the ‘Confederate Motors’ name before they change it to Curtiss Motorcycles and go all-electric.

    Chambers told Los Angeles Times:
    “We can’t go any further than this. We’ve hit the ceiling. This is it.”

    He said that the first vehicle they are working on is a twin-motor cruiser bike that “will produce the equivalent of 175 horsepower and 290 pound-feet of torque.”

    Zero Motorcycles, which introduced bikes with over 200 miles of range in its 2017 lineup, is apparently on board with the project.

    The Santa Cruz-based company has been supplying its electric powertrain technology to other vehicle manufacturers looking to electrify their lineup, like ‘the world’s first electric, stand-up personal watercraft’.

    But now it would be to create a torque beast electric motorcycle with twin motors.

    Chambers didn’t offer a timeline for the new bike, but his Birmingham-based company will be putting all their focus on it after delivering the last few of their gas-powered bikes.

    https://electrek.co/2017/08/30/zero-motorcycles-twin-electric-motor-bike-curtiss-motorcycles/

    Update:

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    The powerful electric motorcycle quickly secured the coveted “Most Innovative Motorcycle” award at the 2018 Quail Motorcycle Gathering in Carmel, California.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-in/autos/aut...zeus-prototype-unveiled/ar-AAxaq3g?li=AAgg6KI
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    Alternet Systems Announces ReVolt Electric Motorbikes to Produce Lithium Battery Powered Motorcycles for US and International Market

    Apr 17, 2018, 08:30 ET

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    DALLAS, April 17, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- Alternet Systems, Inc. announces, ReVolt Electric Motorbikes

    Alternet is applying its portfolio of lithium battery technologies to empower commercially viable, environmentally sustainable alternatives to existing consumer markets.

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    ReVolt has partnered with a manufacturing company to first produce a motorcycle based on the 1930's BMW R71 motorcycle with sidecar utilized by the German Army in WWII.

    The ReVolt Classic Electric Motorbike with Sidecar will be powered by an electric motor utilizing an Alternet Systems designed lithium battery solution.

    https://www.revoltmotorbikes.com

    An electrified 1930's sidecar bike .. yes!
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  14. Lesharoturbo

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    I almost agree .People are lazy, so a 40 mile range means recharging every day. A 40 mile range means more charge/discharge cycles and lower battery life.

    A 100 mile range is more usable and increases the lifespan of the battery pack. Speeds up to 60 are necessary in many commuters. Here in Texas, the road in front of my subdivision is 65 . Most feeder roads to Austin are 60 mph. There are very few 45mph roads here, even in big cities. This is true through most of the South and West.
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    Eugene home to U.S. distributor of electric motorcycles from New Zealand
    by Tom Adams and KVAL.com staff

    Wednesday, March 21st 2018

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    A Eugene father-and-son team who run U.S. distribution of an all-electric motorcycles made in New Zealand say introduction of a street-legal model has boosted sales. Ethan and Bob Ralston started selling off-road models of the Ubco fully electric motorcycle last June. Now a street legal version - classified as a moped by the Oregon DMV - is available.

    "There's a huge market for it: recreational and adventure, RV motor homes, commuting market," said Ethan Ralston.

    Ethan credits his father Bob with finding Ubco and proposing the business venture.

    "He found these guys," Ethan said. "He contacted me, saying, 'Hey check this one out'."

    The electric motorcycles have a top speed of 30 mph and take 6 hours to charge.

    http://kval.com/news/local/eugene-home-to-us-distributor-of-electric-motorcycles-made-in-new-zealand


    http://www.ubcobikes.com/us/
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    • VW Group's Electrify America is rolling out an ambitious plan to partner with retail companies and developers to bring fast charging for electric vehicles to more locations
    • The company is initialy joining with Walmart and Target
    • 2,000 individual fast-chargers will be installed
    https://m.newstimes.com/technology/...merica-teams-up-with-Walmart-and-12857194.php

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    By 2019, the national plan says, it will have installed more than 450 "non-proprietary" electric-vehicle charging stations in 11 metropolitan areas and along many major highways. Non-proprietary in this case means that only common standards used by multiple makers will be employed.

    The total $2 billion fund is split into two separate plans: one for California, totaling $800 million, and another for the rest of the country, totaling $1.2 billion. In the first national phase, the goal is to have 240 fast-charging sites installed or under construction by the end of the 30-month period.

    Each site will include four to 10 individual 150-kilowatt and 320-kw DC fast-charging cables, which could cut average time for an 80-percent recharge to as little as 15 to 20 minutes for next-generation longer-range electric vehicles equipped with suitable onboard charging equipment.

    Those sites will be spread across 39 states, and their locations will be closely correlated with the EV Charging Corridors designated last year by the federal government. The sites will be spaced roughly 65 miles apart, on average, and no two sites will be more than 120 miles apart.

    In addition to the DC fast-charging sites, the plan's first phase will also install more than 300 "community-based charging sites" with a mix of DC fast charging and 240-volt Level 2 stations.

    https://www.greencarreports.com/new...for-electric-car-charging-across-u-s-released

    What this could mean for electric motorcycles with L2/L3 charge capability is a greater nationwide network to fast charge. As more fast charge networks are built, more electric motorcycles may come equipped or offer the option for fast charging. An increase in fast charge locations is a positive step towards more EV/EM adoption.

    More details at https://www.electrifyamerica.com/
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    For many motorcyclists, the need for a car comes up from time to time - transporting large items, carrying more than one passenger, inclement weather.. Blue solutions has launched its electric car rental service in the US for as low as 15 cents a minute.

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    Seats 4 with cargo space, plus guaranteed parking.

    https://www.scpr.org/programs/take-...-is-the-new-car-in-town--its-electric-and-yo/

    I like options like this as I’ve chosen to have a motorcycle as my only mode of transportation year round. While Uber/Lyft/taxis have their certain advantages, there’s times where I want to be in the driver’s seat.

    And for those who want to rent 2 wheels, Evoke electric motorcycles recently announced it wants to rent electric motorcycles in a similar fashion. http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/myevoke-bike-swap-in-20-seconds.1286842/ As more of the world’s population moves towards cities, I expect electric rentals of 2 and 4 wheels to become a regular sighting.
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  18. EIGuy

    EIGuy Committed/Addicted F800GSA, Beta 350RR, HP2E

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    This is a Great Thread! I am again advertising my Empulse TT for sale but keeps getting deleted without explanation. If one of you gents are able to see what I am doing wrong before it disappears again....would greatly appreciate knowing what I am doing wrong??? It will be advertised again in the Flea Market with the rest of the bikes. Perhaps deleted because not adventure related??

    Cheers
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    I’d ask a moderator. Location is listed in the title I presume. Can’t think of any other reason you’re not able to list it unless it’s missing some other minimum posting criteria. GLWS

    Where are you located btw? I’m always in the market for a good electric motorcycle :) If you’re in SoCal, feel free to PM me.
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    EIGuy Committed/Addicted F800GSA, Beta 350RR, HP2E

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    I am located in Cochrane (near Calgary) in Canada! I drove across Canada to buy my HP2E....maybe I can drive South to drop the Electric Bike to you?

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