Elefant Technical Thread

Discussion in 'Moto Bellissima: All Other Dualsports' started by motomikedh, Feb 28, 2008.

  1. ejand22

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    Hey everybody. I'm looking for ideas related to non-stock fork guards. Has anyone used a Acerbis set meant for a different bike with any success? Or something else? I'm thinking of going with a high fender set-up and would like to change my stock, cracked set of fork guards. Any advice, thoughts, or help would be greatly appreciated.
  2. alfred jorgensen

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    The trouble with finding a set from another bike using the 45 mm Showa forks is that the bottom castings (where the fork protectors are mounted) are proprietary to the Cagiva Elefant. Even the nineties four-stroke Husqvarna`s that used the same basic fork had a different bottom casting (they were owned by Cagiva at the time).

    I have used a KTM 950 front fender, it does need fabricating a couple of adapters out of sheet metal but they are not complicated to make.
  3. ejand22

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    Good morning, Alfred. I appreciate the reply and the info. i'm hoping to use a high fender set-up, but knowing the 950 fender could work is a good fall-back. Thanks.
  4. falcn

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    I used an Acerbis set on my bike.
  5. ejand22

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    Do you remember what bike they were for? Or a product/model number?
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    Thank you Alfred
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    A couple of pictures from a few years back . What do you do if your stock Elefant bodywork is destroyed ?
    Well , this guy taught himself to form aluminum replacements .
    I like it.
  8. ejand22

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    Does anyone have a paint code or know of a close match for the frame color on a 94 e900?
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    Well money is going where the mouth is....this year is the year for the engine.

    Lining up ST2 pistons and barrels - which can be modified for use on the air cooled motors, and from what I am reading gives a little more oil in the cylinder for extra cooling. V heads and 900SS cams - bottom end refresh.

    Another local rider has an Elefant that under went restoration and has the same set-up, but using bored out barrels and not ST2 barrels and 900SS cams with the small valves - he said it rips compared to stock, but with ST2 pistons, no heat issues, since it is 9.5:1 instead of 11:1 on the 944 kits.
  11. falcn

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    Ok. Broke the bleeder valve on the rear caliper when I went to bleed the brakes after replacing the rear brake switch at the rear master cylinder.

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    Can't get the bleeder adapter anymore from Cagiva/Ducati/Brembo that I could find. The bleeder adapter is 12x1.0x10mm.

    Stahlbus makes a bleeder adapter in that size in Stainless with a type of speed bleeder nipple. SB-120111 is the one that fits.

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    KTM part number: 60013020100 also fits, it's much cheaper. I ordered one to verify. You would need to order a 12mm crush washer and 6x1.0mm bleeder with it.

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    Original on left. The issue with the original is that the adapter bolt has a recess on the top that collects water and crud. This settles into the bleeder screw threads. The KTM replacement does not have this design "feature" as you can see. The Stahlbus similarly does not have that design flaw.
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    Perfect timing, I need to replace mine as well and was wondering what size it is. The bleeder contacts my Remus exhaust near full compression. I plan on plugging the original and installing something like this

    https://motowheels.com/i-6921382-single-banjo-bleeder-bolt-single-m10x1-0-swiss-made.html
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    I have those on the master cylinders at the handlebar and they work great. The only thing I can think would be a possible downside is that the bleeder now is at the top of the caliper, where the air bubbles migrate naturally. You might have to take the caliper off and make the banjo the highest part if it doesn't bleed completely.
  14. falcn

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    The dirt bike front fender spacers I used were from McMaster.com p/n 92825A140. 3" long, 0.5 O.D., 0.26" ID.

    To go with them I ordered M6x1.0 90mm length hex head bolts in 18-8 stainless, also from McMaster.com

    Clears the head and the RD Moto crash bars cross-member.

    Enrico Vivi's front fender legs for the E900AC, they come pre-drilled.
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  15. AfricaTwin

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    Gracias!
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  17. ejand22

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    That's ok - thanks for checking on it!
  18. falcn

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    They were Acerbis ones, I know that.
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    Hey guys, I need to replace my chain guide. Where do you usually pick those up?

    Also, would it be beneficial to make a list with links to places we can pick up expendable and other replacement parts for these? If you guys want to post your go-to spots I will compile them into one list.

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    Chain guard or guide? Not sure which part you are referencing.