Yeah, not sure where they are getting those deals either. First though, it's awesome if they are! I called around for a month, across the country (figuring it would be an epic road trip), all the less than $10K bikes I called on, was a very different price when talking to the dealership. So with the 2020 AT at $17K+, if I could get the used AT for the same price as the T7, it might sway my decision, only because of resale value. As to riding, I'd prefer the T7. As a disclaimer, I love my '18 ATAS. For me it is the best ADV bike available at any price.