Florida Trails and Tracks Network

Discussion in 'The Sandbox - AKA Flatistan' started by XRWilly, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. sanjoh

    sanjoh Purveyor of Light

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    Best idea I've heard in this thread.

    Do yourself a favor and host some rides, you'll actually get to put a face with an inmate handle. These FFs are top notch people:deal
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  2. motomike14

    motomike14 Thumper Crusader Supporter

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    @Ginger Beard I didn't mean to slight your comment in a disrespectful manner. The reason I said "loaded question" is because there could be multiple things that I believe, but could be 100% wrong, that contribute to how something like the TAT has been as successful as it has for those communities. I've worked with a company in the past that contributes to negotiating with land owners/municipalities in building things like BMX tracks and skateparks, and 99% of the time we have the first conversations with those willing to appropriate land is "what's in it for our economy" and "what kind of people are coming through" and "what does this ultimate footprint look like with those that return and bring new people with them." I am by no means an expert, nor will I pretend to be, so sorry if I came across as snobby. screw these 60 hour work weeks

    I read through about 50 pages of the blue ridge thread...interesting dynamic when the original author found some trying to sell the tracks...seems things turned south after that. Some of their bigger issues was some limited access to some areas on private property, OR private property that was located within USFS land that may have had some "agreements" to keep open. I see that's not what the goal is/was, something I may have overly focused on for no reason.

    I suppose I should get out more with the maps and put together some more myself. South FL blows for it, so some good excuses to ride more far away areas.
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  3. Dr.Z

    Dr.Z 6Sigma Knuckle Shflr

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    60 hour work weeks? Good thing teachers get paid overtime. :evil
  4. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard Instagram @motopossum

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    No worries man, I didn't see it as a slight but I was confused about the loaded question part. I'm sorry if it seemed like a setup as that certainly wasn't intended. I genuinely wanted to hear some feedback as to how these things work in some places but not others.

    Private land is a big issue as is people running a race pace through homestead areas. Speaking solely for my route through FL, Andy and I had great luck with land owners and business owners. Part of the reason I wanted to rerun the route in it's entirety was to get a reasonable feel for local impact. Everyone we met had a very positive attitude regarding the prospect of a backroads ADV route that had their town or business waypointed and the prospective revenue that it could generate. Most of the route steers clear of metropolitan areas and you wind up in cool little towns like Micanopy, Mayo , White Springs, etc.

    While I know complete routes are off topic for the op, these conversations are important to have because the ability to educate and share with other riders is a good for all of us if done the right way ( especially those new to the area or ADV riding). I truly appreciate any reponse on the subject whether it be pro or con. Part of what I truly enjoy about FL riders is just how passionate they are about both riding and caring for the places / communities that they ride in.
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  5. rider1150gsadv

    rider1150gsadv Long timer

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    The TAT works well because people riding it seem more invested in not making a mess of things. They also frequent the local mom and pop businesses who's owners are genuinely interested in the rider's stories as well. When John and I rode the TAT we met one guy who showed us his shop and later on I found out he is now a stop on the TAT for repairs as well. So IF people behave themselves and drop the hooligan attitude these backroad trails may work. You catch more bees with honey than with vinegar. JMHO...
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  6. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard Instagram @motopossum

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    Yeah, we actually got a cool tour of a moto shop in Dade City that's full of vintage scramblers and the owner of the sandwich shop in Micanopy was really excited for the town to see more travelers from the south FL area come to his shop as he's a transplant from Miami.
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  7. waybill

    waybill wayward

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    Did you mean this Micanopy sandwich shop? :D

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  8. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard Instagram @motopossum

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    I did :D
  9. jaydee1445

    jaydee1445 Footpeg Crash Tester

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    Personally I jumped the gun and made assumptions without looking at the network site. After a quick look of what you've posted and explanation of the guidelines I would be for keeping it up. The fall out from public recreation areas should be minimal. A guide to Richloam would be very helpful IMHO. I don't think that came across in my last comment.
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  10. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard Instagram @motopossum

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    :nod

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  11. Dr.Z

    Dr.Z 6Sigma Knuckle Shflr

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    Lots of chuckleheads in that pic! :evil
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  12. XRWilly

    XRWilly Been here awhile

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    The next stop, later this month I'll be developing some tracks and trail information in Citrus. We were in there on the Friday before Devil's Creek and, although ultimately getting chased out of the north rim by either a massive controlled burn or forest fire, it seemed quite navigable and dry enough to get through. Richloam is a whole 'nuther issue. Richloam is a huge area of forest roads. Then our water table is already very high heading into the wet/rainy season and that really showed itself in Richloam last weekend. With my current "organized" ride/rally plan this summer, I may not get to Richloam until next fall or winter...and fall may not be doable 'cuz of hunting season timing. I know Richloam better than most tracks around here as it's almost in my back yard, and I will get to it.

    As mentioned, for now the website is locked down and I've edited that information into the first post like they did over on the BRT thread...which, btw, still rolled out to 104 pages. Things do get lost in the soup here.


  13. beaterktm

    beaterktm Been here awhile

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    I love that Honda!!!
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  14. motomike14

    motomike14 Thumper Crusader Supporter

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    I miss that 600 I had :doh