Freedom Sidecars.L.L.C.New leading link design

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  1. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    New leading link design. Adjustable trail fron stock solo to around 1 1/2" . No telelever. Floating calipers. Typically with a car tire to match wheel and tire on rear of bike and sidecar.
    More later.
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  2. AceRph

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  3. davebig

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    Waiting to see the other side, but 3 bolt on style wheels would be cool.DB
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  4. AceRph

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    ^^Yeah, that's a real plus.
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  5. Wolfgang55

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    Looks like a strong lay out w/ equally quality welds.

    This addition should go a long ways up that rocky trail or down that open freeway.
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  6. Bobmws

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    Interesting to say the least!
    Is that DB's new front end?
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  7. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    No, DB is getting a more conventional Leading Link which retains the telelever.
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  8. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Actually if I was starting again, I'd be after him for a single sided front attempting to retain the telelever, I like the interchangeable wheel in all positions . I don't know if the telelever setup would be strong enough, though to his credit Claude errors on the overbuilt side.Bob the welder is the real thing and he likes his TIG machine which is how they all are. For Bob
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  9. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Wolfgang..please call me when you can. 570 837 5120
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  10. Melrone

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    That looks like the setup Bob was showing us when we dropped my rig off..Some of the nicest welding I've ever seen..Looks good Claude.....
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  11. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Thanks I will relay the message. Bob is a good welder no doubt. He still complains that he is shaky now that he is older.....blah blah....lol.
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  12. Wolfgang55

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    A long time ago I was told, lay every bead as though it's your name.
    Make it as though you want everyone to be able to read it.

    A good welder can leave behind him/her a job that should last a life time or more.
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  13. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Good philosophy Wolfgang. Historically we have not had issues with welds having issues. I am thankful for that. Structural designs are very important also. Welds are welds but the design of the whole has a lot to do with the ability of the whole to stand the test of time. Not to downplay the importance of good welds at all but welds hold parts together. How the parts are laid out to do the job at hand is very important as well. No assembly is ever any stronger than it's weakest point. We have seen designs that had good looking welds that have had issues and designs that had poor looking welds take a beating that was amazing. Why? I believe two things....good design number one and the fact that a weld in and of itself can look good and be bad or look bad and still be good structurally. Design is very important!
    I think , or would like to think, that any builder desires their creations to stand up under the rigors of day to day operation and above. Design comes into this in a big way.
    I usually tell people that even though any of us in this business of fabrication want to make things as good as we possibly can there is still the chance of an issue arising. All the cars do not finish the Indy 500 every year even though they put a lot of money and effort into doing so.
    We built sprint car chassis and such for quite a while. Different thing than sidecars but we learned a lot from a lot of very knowledgeable people along the way. saw many guys come and go. Some blew into the sport and /knew it all'. Most of these didn't last long. When in the arena of racing it was almost a given that a crash would happen. Lightweight was important along with structural integrity. Crashes from structural failures were not acceptable. Yes, some did happen when some builders insisted on pushing the envelope to save some weight. I guess I go on and on here but won't.
    If an issue does develop it is how it is handled that counts. We pray that no issues do happen but if they do we want to be available to handle them properly. I have heard stories of cases to the contrary and this is sad. Some have been amazingly sad.
    Someone once said that the more lengthy a warranty is the less you can trust it. LOL. We have been fortunate to have many many happy repeat customers. really wish we had begun this circus years earlier as we have made so many good friends through it and have seen so many enjoy what we were able work with in creating something that they liked. It is incredibly cool when folks just stop in when on a trip to say hello.
    So, yes, good welds and good design do go hand in hand. With sidecars a little overkill isn't a bad thing. A few designs out there have proven to be just plain bad
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  14. the1mavin

    the1mavin Been here awhile

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    Claude - any update on this?
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  15. rg sw wa.

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    Claude,

    Interesting, looks good ! :clap:clap More pictures and information please. And, what kind of socket do you need on that axle nut ?

    Ron,
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