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Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by tsiklonaut, Jun 30, 2009.
I have been reading this for a while. Many thanks for the stories and the excellent photos.
DRZ is going through an overhaul currently.
We have to sit down and think things through I reckon... Lots of places we'd like to visit, just comes down on working hard, earning, planning and then... actually going!
Massive thanks guys! Great to see some of you went through this rather longish RR.
Hi Margus, You may remember us, Dale and Chris in Oman on the Moto Guzzi Quota; friends of Tim who you stayed with in Muscat. We are completing some work on the Guzzi (new rear shock) and I stumbled on a report that I had kept of yours regarding the HyperPro. Your vehicle weight, road conditions, etc. are all similar to ours, so I am interested in the long-term results. Because the Quota is not so common, it has been difficult to find a supplier willing to build one to suit. Are you still happy with the HyperPro? If so, I will try to convince them to build me one. By the way, good to see you are still travelling, and congratulations on the book, well done. I very much regret not having taken the opportunity to visit Yemen years ago when it was still possible. Just tragic the events in that poor country since we saw you both. PS We are still in the Middle East: 5 years Oman, 2 years Qatar, 1 year Dubai. This has turned into rather a long trip through Arabia-Africa... Dale & Chris Bartlett
Thank you very much of the reports, still the best with the moped called Dot. I am impressed how fond you are of the BMW.
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Kudos, glad people still check this RR!
Hi Dale & Chris, so good to hear from you guys! Sad about Yemen indeed, it turned out to be one of my favourite countries.
I'm not their sales person but Hyerpro "3D" shocks have been proven fantastic quality-wise in our experiences. Both Öhlins and Wilbers were very unreliable in comparsion. Hyperpro "3D" models are the ones that have oil and gas separated ("piggyback" or separate canister on the shock). The cheaper emulsion (where oil and gas are mixed) shocks tend to be tricky from most manufacturers and can start to leak easily when taking heavy pounding, hence if you look for reliability I'd recommend avoiding emulsion shocks for rear unless you have a twin-shock bike that share the pounding load they receive. For monoshock definitely go for the 3D model with progressive spring matched to your travelling weight.
MG Quota is quite a rare bike, but I guess Hyperpro can always make you a special shock to fit if required.
Many thanks for the response. I didn't need any selling, just some first-hand experience. HyperPro were already on my list. They say that they do not have one to suit the Quota, but I will press them to build a special, after all, how hard can it be? Your load is almost identical to ours which is a help. This just came to me and is a long shot, do you happen to have any paperwork with your original specification? Invoice details or something that may help them with damping settings/spring rates, etc. I know linkage ratios will affect the design. In any case you have been helpful enough, thanks and all the best. Dale
Margus, please, please, please make those photobucket pics visible again!
For some reason Photobucket asks 400 USD for a yearly cost claiming I'm doing a "third party hosting" (via showing them in ADVrider I guess?). I guess I have to move the pics to Flickr or similar who don't ask for ripoff prices.
Yes, linkage will make even the same weight-class different bikes very different in spring hardness requirement wise. Ours has no linkage, it's directly connected from frame to swingarm.
I guess the most you have to pay attention to is the correct spring stiffness. With a direct link, heavy bike and doing bad roads we had a MASSIVE spring, the hardest they could offer, I remember it was 200-300 Nm/mm spring (two measurements means it's a progressive spring, in the begnning of the travel it's 200 Newtonmeters per millimetre and when fully compressed it's 300 Nm/mm). It was so hard and long spring that I had it preloaded just a millimeter or two and it was already slightly above 1/3 static load with all of our weight LOL. So I guess for most similar weights (250 kg bike with two people + luggage) around 180-250 Nm/mm spring should do the trick with some finer preloading adjustment.
As of other specs the 3D already shock comes with recommended high/slow speed dampening and rebound settings from the factory, you'll go from there as you gain more experience. Remember not to change more than 2-3 clicks each time you go out for a longer test ride, a slow process but you get it set up very nice for your average needs in time.
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