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Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by tsiklonaut, Jun 30, 2009.
I have been reading this for a while. Many thanks for the stories and the excellent photos.
DRZ is going through an overhaul currently.
We have to sit down and think things through I reckon... Lots of places we'd like to visit, just comes down on working hard, earning, planning and then... actually going!
Massive thanks guys! Great to see some of you went through this rather longish RR.
Hi Margus, You may remember us, Dale and Chris in Oman on the Moto Guzzi Quota; friends of Tim who you stayed with in Muscat. We are completing some work on the Guzzi (new rear shock) and I stumbled on a report that I had kept of yours regarding the HyperPro. Your vehicle weight, road conditions, etc. are all similar to ours, so I am interested in the long-term results. Because the Quota is not so common, it has been difficult to find a supplier willing to build one to suit. Are you still happy with the HyperPro? If so, I will try to convince them to build me one. By the way, good to see you are still travelling, and congratulations on the book, well done. I very much regret not having taken the opportunity to visit Yemen years ago when it was still possible. Just tragic the events in that poor country since we saw you both. PS We are still in the Middle East: 5 years Oman, 2 years Qatar, 1 year Dubai. This has turned into rather a long trip through Arabia-Africa... Dale & Chris Bartlett
Thank you very much of the reports, still the best with the moped called Dot. I am impressed how fond you are of the BMW.
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Kudos, glad people still check this RR!
Hi Dale & Chris, so good to hear from you guys! Sad about Yemen indeed, it turned out to be one of my favourite countries.
I'm not their sales person but Hyerpro "3D" shocks have been proven fantastic quality-wise in our experiences. Both Öhlins and Wilbers were very unreliable in comparsion. Hyperpro "3D" models are the ones that have oil and gas separated ("piggyback" or separate canister on the shock). The cheaper emulsion (where oil and gas are mixed) shocks tend to be tricky from most manufacturers and can start to leak easily when taking heavy pounding, hence if you look for reliability I'd recommend avoiding emulsion shocks for rear unless you have a twin-shock bike that share the pounding load they receive. For monoshock definitely go for the 3D model with progressive spring matched to your travelling weight.
MG Quota is quite a rare bike, but I guess Hyperpro can always make you a special shock to fit if required.
Many thanks for the response. I didn't need any selling, just some first-hand experience. HyperPro were already on my list. They say that they do not have one to suit the Quota, but I will press them to build a special, after all, how hard can it be? Your load is almost identical to ours which is a help. This just came to me and is a long shot, do you happen to have any paperwork with your original specification? Invoice details or something that may help them with damping settings/spring rates, etc. I know linkage ratios will affect the design. In any case you have been helpful enough, thanks and all the best. Dale
Margus, please, please, please make those photobucket pics visible again!
For some reason Photobucket asks 400 USD for a yearly cost claiming I'm doing a "third party hosting" (via showing them in ADVrider I guess?). I guess I have to move the pics to Flickr or similar who don't ask for ripoff prices.
Yes, linkage will make even the same weight-class different bikes very different in spring hardness requirement wise. Ours has no linkage, it's directly connected from frame to swingarm.
I guess the most you have to pay attention to is the correct spring stiffness. With a direct link, heavy bike and doing bad roads we had a MASSIVE spring, the hardest they could offer, I remember it was 200-300 Nm/mm spring (two measurements means it's a progressive spring, in the begnning of the travel it's 200 Newtonmeters per millimetre and when fully compressed it's 300 Nm/mm). It was so hard and long spring that I had it preloaded just a millimeter or two and it was already slightly above 1/3 static load with all of our weight LOL. So I guess for most similar weights (250 kg bike with two people + luggage) around 180-250 Nm/mm spring should do the trick with some finer preloading adjustment.
As of other specs the 3D already shock comes with recommended high/slow speed dampening and rebound settings from the factory, you'll go from there as you gain more experience. Remember not to change more than 2-3 clicks each time you go out for a longer test ride, a slow process but you get it set up very nice for your average needs in time.
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Massive thanks to @RTWPAUL by posting an interview about us!
Maybe there will be a slight revival of the thread when I have time on those long winter nights since I've discovered lots of exposed film from Eastern-Europe, Caucasus, Central-Asia & Mongolia I've haven't finished working on.
I've done some parts of it but it's a lots of material still to scan. Those were the rolls I packed for the trip, shot most of them:
Hi Margus and Kariina, Congratulations on the interview, and the baby. We are about 2 months from the end of our trip and are currently in Arusha about to cross into Kenya. HyperPro did a superb job of custom building a new shock and all has gone well with the Guzzi, although our trip has been very tame compared to your own. Still, we have enjoyed every minute, which after all is the aim. Thanks again for your advice. Dale
Margus and Kariina, I'm very much looking forward to the rediscovered stuff! As usual, even this "picture of the pictures" is a little work of art in itself .
That is quite impressive!
Congratulations on the interview, made me remember some parts of the book. Looking forward to see some more of your pictures!
The less known parts of Latvia - the fortress of Daugavpils. A big complex of heavy buildings built by Alexander I for an imminent Napoleon invasion.
We arrived there with a rainy miserable weather but the place left an eerie impression on us.
Lots of it abandoned, but some life is starting to come back into it in recent years.
A wild camp in Belarus forest - there's surprisingly lots of forest in some parts of Belarus and incidentally we Estonians simply love the forest.
Belarus - like the bigger brother Russia they're really into military and triumph.
"Everything for the (war) front line!" Soviet mosaic art on the street of Minsk, the capital of Belarus.
A Cold War era space-age Soviet art in Minsk metro.
Minsk briges look nicer and more arty from below.
Good to hear Hyperpro worked out for you. For us it was a life saver since all other shocks just disintegrated in short periods.
Thank you guys! Will post the pics as I scan, organize and edit them.
Howzit Margus, still here in Jo,burg I have been a bit quiet, went into semi retirement and then did my back a nasty, apparently at 60 you shouldn't help your 90kg Great Dane up into the truck . Anyway I have a new 6 month contract and my back is much better, so riding again. regards to the missus.
In Brest there's a massive communist memorial known as The Fortress. You'll find countless tons of concrete there...
St Nicholas carrison church
"Courage" monument. Picture doesn't do justice how large it is (54 meters wide and 30 meters high), over 4000 tons of concrete was needed just to cast it.
In front of it there's an eternal flame.
The 100-meter high Bayonet obelisk.
Hi Welsh, good to know all is going smooth in Jo'burg! Health is the most important thing indeed.
Someday we'll hope to be back to ZA!