GCBAR - Grand Canyon Backcountry Adventure Route - The Complete Route

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - West & PNW' started by dave6253, Feb 6, 2016.

  1. offtheback

    offtheback Chocolate Starfish Supporter

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    I didn’t make a reservation for Toroweap when I went last year. A buddy said it was first come basis, then I saw the sign on the way in and tried to navigate the reservation website with limited cell service. I gave up and decided to head in and stopped at the ranger station about 10miles from Toroweap. They can’t tell you if there are openings but issued me a permit and told me if it fills up with preregistration campers I had to leave. Luckily only two others showed up to camp. There is also BLM land just before you enter the park that is open camping.
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  2. SCPancho

    SCPancho Old farts riding club. Supporter

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    Did extend it to1 week! Almost headed that direction.
  3. Zubb

    Zubb he went that-a-way... Supporter

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    PSA: I just rode and camped through the SOUTH rim, and of course the campgrounds were all FULL.

    Note - there is almost unlimited 'wild' camping right outside the west entrance to the park. Just a few hundred yards outside the entrance is a dirt road to the north and you can just ride until you see a decent spot, probably past the other campers, like we did. Free. Easy. Wild.
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  4. slovenian6474

    slovenian6474 Adventurer

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    Does 'wild' mean I don't have to wear pants?
  5. Aces 6

    Aces 6 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Over

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  6. Zubb

    Zubb he went that-a-way... Supporter

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    Yes. You do not have to wear pants on BLM land from what I understand.
  7. Antikid

    Antikid Been here awhile Supporter

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    how was the weather and conditions? we leave in 22 days!!!
  8. Zubb

    Zubb he went that-a-way... Supporter

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    They were great but will likely change over the next 22 days. :photog
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  9. Blaise W

    Blaise W Long timer Super Supporter Supporter

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    Need some help here. I looked for this road on Google maps, both map and satellite view, and couldn't identify it. Do you mean by west entrance the actual border of the park, or the entry kiosks. West side of the road, or east side? The west entrance road runs almost due north and south. Or are you referring to the north rim.
  10. Zubb

    Zubb he went that-a-way... Supporter

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    From the round-a-bout in Tusayan AZ,
    • go north on Hywy 64 for 4,976ft (just short of a mile) and
    • turn left on Fire Road 800/2616. It's a big left turn- very easy to see.
    • Go 200ft and the road sweeps left onto 328 (going south now).
    • Pick a spot off of Rd 328 ... for example, across the road from "Apache Stables" on google maps. Just ride a hundred feet up any spur into the forest.
    • as always . . . leave no trace.

    EDIT: try this LINK
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  11. Antikid

    Antikid Been here awhile Supporter

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    leaving next Friday!!!!

    I have a tire swap lined up in Flagstaff with SantaCruz Motorsports Flagstaff https://santacruzmotorsportsflagstaff.com/
    He is even going to do the swap on Monday (memorial day) AND he let me ship him tires since he said I could just buy them cheaper online.

    Next weeks flagstaff temps look interesting...

    Any updates on things out there from locals? anything we should definitely know about?
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  12. Zubb

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    For the most part . . . no cell service in the park. Especially if you are AT&T. So tell Mama not to worry if she doesn't hear from you. My buddies Verizon got an occasional signal strong enough to send a text - once in awhile. Don't count on it.

    Don't worry about temps. It will be different from whatever you think it will be.
  13. Antikid

    Antikid Been here awhile Supporter

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    thanks. I don't plan on having cell service, and that is a good thing!
    I use a Garmin InReach for sending friends and family updates.
  14. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    I usually get a strong enough Verizon signal to send text messages while at the points overlooking the canyon. Even in some of the remote areas, such as SB Point. Out in the middle of the strip, probably not.
  15. RodneyJohns

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    Im planning to fly into Las Vegas and pick up a ktm 1090 to ride back to Atlanta .... I did the TAT on a KTM 950 SE,,, gonna be doing this alone ... How hard is this .... I ride a ton of single track some on my 990 just trying o make sure this isn't unreal hard? thanks
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  16. larryboy

    larryboy Stable genius.

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    It's not difficult, you'll be fine.
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  17. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    @RodneyJohns , Larryboy is right. You should be able to do it no problem - if it is dry.
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  18. Snake Oiler

    Snake Oiler If the world didn't suck, we would all fall off

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    Awesome Dave thanks for all your hard work and help. A couple mates and I are going to be in the north rim area at the end of September. We have a cabin in Big Springs for a couple nights for day trips then head counter clockwise as to call Mexican hat our last night before heading back to Big Springs to load and truck back to Prescott.

    Capeman has put this ride together with the three of us. And I got to say that this PA redneck is really looking forward to it.

    Peace
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  19. radmann10

    radmann10 Old fart Supporter

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    Hey Dave,

    First of all thank you for doing all the work developing the tracks for your GCBAR, and thank you for sharing them with us.

    I have a couple of questions, if you have time to answer, you rode the GCBAR on your 990 right, so your comments on difficult areas are based on riding a 500 lb bike correct? Have you been out on the AZ strip sections lately? A couple of us are thinking of riding the strip or North rim area in May so were wondering about road condition and changes to the route! Thank you again for doing all the work and posting the route!
  20. dave6253

    dave6253 GCBAR Explorer

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    Good questions, @radmann10 .

    I did the route again last October. Tatahatso Point is no longer an option, so I've added a nearby alternative. I intend to update the tracks soon. The only changes to the route will be on the Navajo reservation.

    I've ridden the tracks multiple times on a 990, and most recently on a 690. The majority is quite easy.

    Road conditions will vary greatly based on weather and how fast the snow melts.
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