GPX TSE250R 2T Enduro

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  1. malignity

    malignity Wonton

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    I thought the same at first.

    I can offer a likely scenario.

    This engine may not be made anymore, and had to be resurrected and replicated. So we're talking purchasing an original, fitting it to a chassis, making a custom pipe, etc.

    Overall two strokes are pretty easy to make and don't change significantly year after year for the most part, thus allowing for a lower price point. You may have to make little changes here and there, but look at Yamaha; no changes for years, KTM changes after 7 years or so, etc.

    This is first year production on what very well may be a brand new engine, whereas the NC250 has already been made and has proven itself for at least 7 years now.

    When you get down to the nitty gritty, $5699 is a lot, but it's still cheaper than it's competition.

    The YZ250X is $7499.

    You don't get 6th.
    You don't get the button.
    You don't get lights

    A new 2T euro bike is even more.
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  2. ChairmanMaose

    ChairmanMaose OneLessCar

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    What about emissions? Does a non-street legal bike not have to go through the emissions check in North America?
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  3. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    Two strokes? I think they have some regs but generally they are closed course competition bikes as labeled/sold anyways.
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  4. ChairmanMaose

    ChairmanMaose OneLessCar

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    Yeah, sorry. It's a 2 stroke in the 21st century. I was curious how that works but maybe you answered that.
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  5. Navin

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    Googlin WR200 engines, see some tarted up, see the old roost boost! And I see the mechanical oil injection block off plate. Hey, no electronic oil injection like the Betas!

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  6. Navin

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  7. Navin

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    Lots to like but a big deal to me, the 8mm bolt heads on the engine instead of the Yammie JIS screws!
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  8. malignity

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    So that big bulky thing on the head is a thermostat? I take it this has a high tech fan?

    Oh! And if you REALLY want to make this thing amazing, @Pitster please make sure the tachometer works on this if it's the same dash as the LXR. It might, but sometimes two strokes can be finicky.

    I'll tell you what, gear commander only works so well. When you have actual proof on your dash of your speed and R's when cruising 55, it helps you re-gear TREMENDOUSLY easier for dual sporting.
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  9. Navin

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    You saw the gear ratios in the motor spec pic?
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  10. Navin

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    On the OEM fische, the big port on the cyl head is just a joint or hose mount, no thermostat in it for the 1992 WR200.
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  11. malignity

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    Yeah. Unfortunately I have no idea what those mean in the grand scheme of things. Not sure how to calculate.

    In the end though what matters to me isn't gear ratio numbers or gear commander theory, it's just the numbers I read on my dash. I know people love it, but it's never once been accurate for me. Too many variables. My fat ass causing wind resistance being one of them.
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  12. Navin

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    Well, the spread is 3.36

    3.40 Honda XR200R 1984 (6-speed)
    3.36 Yamaha WR250R/X (6-speed)
    3.32 Kawasaki KLR250 (6-speed)
    3.29 Yamaha Tenere

    So thats your match in width of the spread in the gear box. The WRR!
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  13. Navin

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    Follow them on face book. Swingarm pics of the new bikes posted today.

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  14. Yinzer Moto

    Yinzer Moto Long timer Supporter

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    I loved the WR200, i guess someone bypassed the oil injection before I got to it, I had to mix gas.
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  15. shinyribs

    shinyribs Thumpers for life

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    Understood 100%. Just don't agree with it at all. So the guy mentioned a price on some leftover models in a thread about the bikes he sells...who the hell did he hurt? The moderation on this forum is unnecessarily trigger happy.

    Anyone offended by anything Pitster posted?
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  16. Yinzer Moto

    Yinzer Moto Long timer Supporter

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    I am not, but to keep people happy, he should avoid any pricing details and just stick to nuts and bolts. He should be allowed to comment in this thread about technical details and tuning.
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    F facebook. Keep cross-posting please. Enjoying the updates.
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  18. Yinzer Moto

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    Maybe if he made a bike that a milk crate could easily be adapted to, they might ease up on him.
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  19. CDN Rick

    CDN Rick Canoodia Eh?

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    Check out @nuggets thread... :hide
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    nuggets It's all my fault...

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