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Discussion in 'Northeast - Greater Flugistan and home of the carp' started by FreeTheBeast, May 27, 2014.
I was moving a little slow getting out of the house this morning and got there 5 or 10 after. Thought I had the route in my GPS and was going to see if I could catch up but somehow didn't actually have it in there. Sorry I missed out, hope you guys had a good ride.
Just visited the North Woods for the first time this week, and I'm liking it up there. Looks like a nice playground.
Looking forward to the finished product.
Thanks for your hard work!
Kevin, thanks for getting up there. I think the northern section will be a tough nut to crack for gravel travel. It's possible that this will indeed be a dual sport route in that some sections will need to be paved roads. But we'll keep going. These couple of photos you grabbed (quote section below) are exactly what I have in mind. I did enough of heaving big, heavy bikes through and around mud/trees yesterday. I would like this route to be big bike friendly so that cross country travelers and/or bikes loaded up with camping gear can get through easily enough. Optional hero sections can be added, as well, for anyone on smaller bikes or just out for a day ride.
I rode the southern section yesterday with a bunch of people.
Thanks for the efforts. This project may be years in the making.
That's what I thought...had I just been looking for the most interesting way north, I suspect I may have "missed" a gate or two that happened to be tall enough to get my bike under, but I figured that wasn't the idea.
Unfortunately, it seems like there are a lot of good, lengthy and legal gravel sections that almost link up, or that only link up via perhaps-not-legal means. The anti-bike stance of the local OHRV club doesn't help, either (some of the ATV trails were old logging roads that I'd describe as big-bike friendly, particularly at lower speeds so as to avoid getting surprised by baby heads, but I'm not entirely sure of the access status of some of them).
You're welcome. I was a little disappointed that Columbia Road wasn't passable and that there didn't seem to be a way north to Colebrook off pavement, but there's some very good riding up there...I had to remind myself that I should pay more attention to how much fun the riding was rather than the disappointment at not finding the northeast passage...
A crazy person might suggest that, as the Ride the Wilds ATV loop continues to draw economic interest, perhaps someday that might translate into more official acceptance of adventure bikers and some of the connections might open up...but that wold be a long way off at best.
Your route was great, even though I consider lower NH my back yard there
were quite a few places I had never been, which is what I was hoping for.
My crew had a great time! Here are some pics from the little side route we
took on the back side of Pats Peak.
Had some blockage to clear first.
Ilya would not give up
Beyond lay uphill tracs and rocks......
and water...mostly water.
This is what I like to see...big smiles
Were you guys loading some bikes into a Sprinter somewhere off route 130 in Hollis yesterday? We rode by a group in a parking lot that looked very ADV. I honked and waved, but we were almost home at the end of a 4 day weekend, so my fiancee didn't want to turn around to investigate...
Something to work on maybe from your neck of the woods would be connector from the Puppy Dog over to the Hampster ride. We were coming from VT last weekend so we buzzed across route 9 from Brattelboro over to Henniker then went down the bottom portion of the Hampster Ride. Might be nice to have an east-west dirt route for people who want to make a New England circle.
Connecting at the top will probably be fairly easy. Stealing routes from the Northern New England Adventure Trail. But at the bottom...
I'd be happy to test the big-bike friendliness of any east-west routes between the Keene area and the Hampster Ride...
That was the MAX BMW crew unloading the demo bikes that they rode Sunday. The staff guys live in various locations, so it was easier to bring the several bikes by van to the start of the ride. The start location being about an hour from the shop.
Not us! No 4-wheel assistance needed this trip.
For those somewhat more adventurous
as you layout your route and consider gates and riding where you may not be welcome....think about this...
the group is having some success in local areas to get the atv clubs to reconsider allowing bikes but the NNEAT is not doing the new club any favors in Maine....
So as you begin to advertise riding in NH, what will it do for long term prospects for developing better relations with landowners....
One thought on this, for anyone who happens to be talking to ATV groups: better maps would be really, really helpful. I ended up on what were probably ATV-only trails a couple of times Saturday. When that did happen, it was result of following an alleged road on my GPS; in a couple of times, those roads simply turned into ATV trails (and possibly unmaintained / Class VI road as well, I don't know); in only one case did I follow an ATV trail around a gate, and that was a result of being a lot closer to getting out of the woods by going through than by turning around (er, at least I thought so). I did end up buying an ATV map, but it's not all that good at showing where I can legally go on a street-plated bike (which makes sense). The E911 maps the state put up at the intersection kiosks, on the other hand, were great, and I'd love to see more maps like thatclearly marking motorized and non-motorized trails, roads open to plated vehicles, roads open to plated vehicles and OHRVs, and private roads.
I also had zero bad interactions with anyone, and I even had an ATV'er come up to me at a gas station, notice the dual-registered bike, and say "Wow, that's the way to go!"
Of course Ilya has to do it on a full-on streetbike.
Was Playing Follow The Leader with FTB till lunch that day.
Went out a couple of days later to scout around.
Does this look familiar?
I'll follow you.
Taking good interest in this route...
My chalet is in Sutton, QC, a bit north of Richford, VT, and I know very well roads and tracks north of the 45th parallel.
Lemme figure out a way to link the Puppy Dog and the Hampster Ride north of the border...
Hey Huck! Can't wait for: