I like the black hole bike for what it is, a muscle cruiser. for me, the density add to a compact muscly look, kind of like a lower first gen Vmax. Obviously, not a common opinion on this thread. I would prefer a little more seat height and mids that are right below the spine of even a tiny bit rear set. However, having said that, I wouldn't buy one unless I won the lottery. That seems highly unlikely because... maths. It's even more unlikely due to the fact that I don't play the lottery because... maths.